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Secular Sunday #56 – This One Has Pictures

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Secular Sunday #48 – Road Trip

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Separate Church and State Now! Public Meetings in Dublin, Cork, Galway and Belfast with Sanal Edamaruku

Why should a respected Indian author be facing jail for exposing a crying Catholic statue as being caused by faulty plumbing? This week you can hear from the victim of this unjust law, as Sanal Edamaruku visits Ireland for a speaking tour.

Atheist Ireland is hosting four public meetings, in Dublin, Cork, Galway and Belfast, to promote separation of church and state in Ireland and internationally.

We will also be holding a briefing session for TDs and Senators in Leinster House.

Indian author Sanal Edamaruku is facing blasphemy charges in India, instigated by the Catholic Church, for exposing a crying Catholic statue as being caused by faulty plumbing and capillary action.

Sanal is President of the Indian Rationalist Association and Rationalist International, and he has written 25 books. A tantrik guru once tried and failed to kill Sanal, using only magic, on a live television show, after Sanal challenged his supposed powers.

Michael Nugent and Jane Donnelly of Atheist Ireland will speak on the need for a secular constitution, laws, government, courts, education system and healthcare system, both in Ireland and internationally.

In Ireland an atheist cannot be President or a judge, the Catholic church runs 90% of our primary schools, hospitals make life and death healthcare decisions based on religious ethics, churches are formally exempted from complying with tax and equality laws, and we have recently passed an internationally controversial blasphemy law.

At the United Nations, Islamic states have cited Ireland’s blasphemy law to support their own blasphemy laws. Victims include Christians like Asia Bibi in Pakistan, Muslims like Hamza Kashgari in Saudi Arabia, and atheists like Alexander Aan in Indonesia. Victims have been attacked, jailed and sentenced to execution.

Ireland must act now to separate church and state. At home, we must provide an ethical, secular country based on democracy, human rights, freedom of belief and conscience, and civil liberty. And internationally, we must promote the same values, backed up by acting consistently in our own country.

Please attend these meetings, and let your voice be heard. Please also publicize the meetings as widely as you can.

Share the Facebook Event pages for the meetings

Download and print a pdf poster for the meetings

Please also email any friends who have secular political views, and bring some friends along to the meeting nearest you.

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Secular Sunday #45 – In the Papers

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Secular Sunday #41 – OSCE, AGM, and Other Acronyms

Michael Nugent addressing the OSCE - click for video

Michael Nugent addressing the OSCE

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You have rights, your beliefs do not: Michael Nugent’s speech to the OSCE human rights meeting in Poland

This is Michael Nugent’s speech to the OSCE human rights meeting in Warsaw, Poland, yesterday on protecting the human rights of atheists and ending blasphemy laws internationally.

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Michael Nugent asks OSCE Human Rights meeting in Warsaw to oppose blasphemy laws

Statement made by Michael Nugent
Chairperson Atheist Ireland
To OSCE Human Rights Meeting
Warsaw, Poland, 1 October 2012

The OSCE has hosted events to specifically combat discrimination against Christians, Muslims and Jews. We request a similar event to specifically combat discrimination against atheists and agnostics.

For example, in Ireland, atheist parents are denied secular education for our children. We cannot become president or a judge in Ireland, because we have to swear a religious oath.

Eamon Gilmore, the current chair of the OSCE, is a member of the Irish Council of State. To take up this office he is obliged to swear an oath before a god that he personally does not believe in.

Our second recommendation is that the OSCE should strongly oppose all blasphemy laws.

The European Union and the Islamic States have recently insisted, in a joint statement, that we respect all religions and all prophets.

Respecting all prophets would mean respecting not only the prophets of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, but also respecting David Koresh at Waco, and David Icke who believes that George Bush is a space lizard.

This is clearly absurd. We can respect your right to believe, while not respecting the content of your beliefs. You have rights. Your beliefs do not. That is the essence of freedom of conscience.

I do not respect any belief about reality that is not based on sufficient evidence, and I do not respect any belief about morality that oppresses women, or gay people or other minorities.

Unsurprisingly, this recent EU statement has resulted in the Islamic States at the UN reintroducing their attempts to make blasphemy a crime internationally. The OSCE and all civilised states should oppose this attempt to move us backwards in terms of freedom of conscience.

If you would like to discuss how to combat this danger, please attend our side event at lunchtime in meeting room 3.

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David Nash discusses the Irish blasphemy law at OSCE human rights meeting in Poland

This is the speech by Prof David Nash, Oxford Brookes University, to the side meeting on protecting the human rights of atheists, at the annual OSCE (Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe) human rights meeting in Warsaw in Poland today, Monday 1st October.

I am Professor David Nash of Oxford Brookes University in the United Kingdom. I am an expert on the history of blasphemy and have studied it and written on it now for some twenty years. I have also given advice to a number of politicians and governments and have always stressed that the history of this offence in the past informs the context for its present. Likewise a knowledge of past laws and how they have been framed is the key to understanding how socities seek to make the law protect the sacred

The situation for blasphemy and blasphemy laws, has within the last few years has altered dramatically. Many countries up to this point had archaic blasphemy laws that are the remnant of previous outlooks and legal landscapes – these have more or less been considered anachronistic, moribund and awaiting discredit and swift repeal – a situation which played itself out in the UK in 2006

But as we know blasphemy has entered public consciousness dramatically recently as countries and individuals consider it to be the currency of discussion about identity, religion and rights. Thus it is vital that we consider here the damage that the concept of blasphemy and laws against it is doing to rights and freedoms as well as the image and status of the religious itself.

Main Philosophical and Legal objections to Blasphemy Laws

Laws against blasphemy do not fit well with other species of law within the same legal codes. They lack a comfortable proof of intention (mens rea). It is a species of libel with no real rules of evidence or proof. Likewise it is an offence for which the Mens Rea assumptions of guilt are, and always have been very difficult to establish.

Quite how an inclusive blasphemy law would protect religions in conflict with one another, or apostates from more established forms of religion is a very moot point.

The criterion for recognition as a religious group is itself even more problematic. Precisely who is to be in charge of the definition and how often should this be reviewed.

It is not inconceivable that an extended blasphemy law potentially enshrines religious protection for the act of blasphemy and does not protect society from its ramifications

Such defences could easily be harnessed by unsavoury and objectionable religious and political views to enjoy the oxygen of publicity which could otherwise be denied to them.

The current situation in Ireland

The law of blasphemy in Ireland had, as judged by a range of commentators, ceased to be viable since the last case held that the crime was incapable of definition. In many instances this has signalled the fall of blasphemy laws in many western countries. However without warning the government (in the shape of the Minister of Justice, Dermot Ahern, almost without warning inserted a series of provisions (articles 36 and 37) into the 2009 Defamation Act. These were

36.— (1) A person who publishes or utters blasphemous matter shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable upon conviction on indictment to a fine not exceeding €25,000.
(2) For the purposes of this section, a person publishes or utters blasphemous matter if—
(a) he or she publishes or utters matter that is grossly abusive or insulting in relation to matters held sacred by any religion, thereby causing outrage among a substantial number of the adherents of that religion, and
(b) he or she intends, by the publication or utterance of the matter concerned, to cause such outrage.
(3) It shall be a defence to proceedings for an offence under this section for the defendant to prove that a reasonable person would find genuine literary, artistic, political, scientific, or academic value in the matter to which the offence relates.
(4) In this section “ religion ” does not include an organisation or cult—
(a) the principal object of which is the making of profit, or
(b) that employs oppressive psychological manipulation—
(i) of its followers, or
(ii) for the purpose of gaining new followers.

37.— (1) Where a person is convicted of an offence under section 36 , the court may issue a warrant—
(a) authorising any member of the Garda Síochána to enter (if necessary by the use of reasonable force) at all reasonable times any premises (including a dwelling) at which he or she has reasonable grounds for believing that copies of the statement to which the offence related are to be found, and to search those premises and seize and remove all copies of the statement found therein,
(b) directing the seizure and removal by any member of the Garda Síochána of all copies of the statement to which the offence related that are in the possession of any person,
(c) specifying the manner in which copies so seized and removed shall be detained and stored by the Garda Síochána.
(2) A member of the Garda Síochána may—
(a) enter and search any premises,
(b) seize, remove and detain any copy of a statement to which an offence under section 36 relates found therein or in the possession of any person,
in accordance with a warrant under subsection (1).
(3) Upon final judgment being given in proceedings for an offence under section 36 , anything seized and removed under subsection (2) shall be disposed of in accordance with such directions as the court may give upon an application by a member of the Garda Síochána in that behalf.

This law has no precedent and bears no relation to any other blasphemy law in existence. It does not come from a historic protection of religion – nor does it come from the new direction of seeking to police incitement to religious hatred.

Thus there are specific problems with this law which are as follows

1/ Wording within the law that is citing elements of degree to enact the offence alongside conceptions that have no real and precise meaning

The blasphemous matter has to be ‘grossly’ abusive and there is no clear definition of when this level of abuse has been reached as opposed to ‘mild’ or ‘minimal’ abuse.

This matter also has to cause ‘outrage’ again not clearly defined. Moreover the need for outrage is more likely to ensure this level of reaction is achieved from those so offended.

Given the possible defences offered above many convicted of blasphemy in the past would note that this is a class discriminatory law like those of the nineteenth century. This law creates provisions whereby a skilled and educated debater stands far less chance of prosecution than a less educated individual in a non-academic context.

Attempts to define ‘religion’ are clumsy at best which seeks to rule out ‘cults’ (again not positively defnined) or organisations whose ‘principle object of which is the making of profit’ or ‘employs oppressive psychological manipulation.’ Again court cases where these characteristics are mentioned in connection with established mainstream religions will cause great offence and prove similarly embarrassing for the government.

‘Substantial number’ of adherents is not defined, neither is ‘adherents’.

2/ Defences against an accusation of blasphemy also contain their own problems

The attempt to establish legitimate defences again contain poorly defined concepts

What is a ‘Reasonable person’ for example?

What is ‘… genuine literary, artistic, political, scientific or academic value.’ It is difficult to establish what these concepts are, even before we distinguish legally between ‘genuine’ manifestations and ‘false’ manifestations – such court cases could prove spectacularly embarrassing.

It has frequently been suggested that the Irish Law has been deliberately drafted to ensure no prosecutions

  • This assertion is potentially naive even if it is true
  • This assumes a will by government to not use the law
  • This assumes a de facto secular world view amongst those in power and that this will by definition continue.
  • This assumes an arrogance that legislators have been smart enough to cover all dangers

However members of the Irish Parliament have been alerted to the issues.

Ivana Bacik in February following our briefing in the last days of January stated the case as follows:

“I call for a debate on blasphemy law… There is an issue as there was an adverse international impact, with certain countries adopting Irish arguments on blasphemy and using this to bolster prejudice against different religions, even Christian religions in Islamic countries. We have also seen that Ireland has gone against the EU norm in adopting a new statutory definition of blasphemy based on a definition of offence. It is outdated and I am glad it is up for review in the programme for Government. We must move forward by having a debate in the House on how we can ensure incitement to religious hatred laws are strengthened in the Statute Book. We no longer need an offence of blasphemy.”

Conclusions

The Irish law of blasphemy is substantially unwanted (there was no demand for it before its introduction) and it seemed to appear more or less from nowhere. It is poorly drafted and contains innumerable legal and procedural hostages to fortune. Ireland’s stance on the matter runs counter to what is occurring in other western countries and how its own actions no longer occur in isolation and convey signals to the rest of the world

Indeed, at the United Nations, Pakistan has already cited part of the wording of the Irish blasphemy law when proposing a resolution on defamation of religion. And, while the new Irish Government says it is opposed to the blasphemy law, it has delayed taking action on it by including it on the agenda of a constitutional convention that will deliberate for a year or more.

Moribund blasphemy laws simply sitting on statute books are capable of being harnessed and used from scratch. Still worse new laws create a culture of viability for such laws that transgress principles of law as most legal systems understand them. They are founded on unsatisfactory conceptions of offence and offensiveness, of culpability, of proof, of guilt and of punishment. As such they are unrelated to other crimes and empower certain groups against others – distorting modern societies and their conceptions of justice.

 

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Secular Sunday #40 – Still Talking about Blasphemy

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Atheist Ireland attends OSCE meeting in Poland to challenge spread of blasphemy laws and promote human rights of atheists

Atheist Ireland will this Monday, October 1st, attend the annual OSCE (Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe) human rights meeting in Warsaw in Poland, where we will speak against blasphemy laws, religious oaths and the need for secular education. Atheist Ireland will also host a side meeting to highlight the need to respect the human rights of atheists and nonbelievers.

We believe that the western world is in danger of crossing a significant line in the historic battle for freedom of conscience and freedom of expression. We are in danger of conceding the step between the state respecting somebody’s right to believe what they want, and the state automatically respecting the content of the belief itself – and insisting that citizens do so also.

The Atheist Ireland delegation at the OSCE meeting is Michael Nugent, Chairperson Atheist Ireland; Prof David Nash, Oxford Brookes University UK, who is an expert on blasphemy laws; and Jane Donnelly, Education Policy Officer Atheist Ireland, who is an expert on secular education.

The European Union has endorsed ‘full respect of religion’.

Two weeks ago the European Union, the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, the Arab League and the Commission of the African Union released an absurd and dangerous joint statement, expressing ‘the importance of respecting all prophets’, and ‘strongly committing to take further measures’ to work for ‘full respect of religion’. Since then the Islamic States at the United Nations have reintroduced their bid to have blasphemy criminalized internationally.

‘Respecting all prophets, regardless of which religion they belong to’ includes not only the Abrahamic prophets such as Moses, Jesus and Muhammad, but also the convicted con-man and first Mormon prophet Joseph Smith, the Raelist prophet Claude Vorilhon, David Koresh of the Branch Davidians in Waco, and the former Coventry City goalkeeper turned snooker commentator turned Green Party spokesperson turned Son of God David Icke. Why is the European Union endorsing this absurd statement?

The joint statement concludes by saying that ‘We reiterate our strong commitment to take further measures and to work for an international consensus on tolerance and full respect of religion, including on the basis of UN Human Rights Council resolution 16/18.’ What exactly is meant by the phrase ‘full respect of religion’? And if enforcing it only ‘includes’ the basis of this UN resolution, what else does it include? We know what Islamic states mean by ‘full protection of religion’. Why is the European Union advancing this dangerous notion?

We know what Islamic states mean by ‘full respect of religion’.

  • In Indonesia, Alexander Aan, a 31-year-old atheist civil servant, has been jailed for two and a half years for sharing material on Facebook about the Prophet Mohammad and writing that god does not exist.
  • In Pakistan, Asia Noreen Bibi, a 41-year-old Christian mother, has spent three years in prison and faces execution by hanging after a farcical blasphemy conviction. And last year two Pakistani politicians who questioned her sentence were murdered.
  • Also in Pakistan, Rimsha Masih, a 14-year-old Christian girl, was recently arrested for allegedly burning pages from the Quran. An islamic cleric was later arrested for planting the Quran pages as evidence.
  • In Saudi Arabia, Hamza Kashgari, a 23-year-old Muslim poet, has been jailed for blasphemy for publishing tweets saying that he would shake Muhammad’s hand as an equal if he met him.
  • And in Iran, Youcef Nadarkhani, a 35-year-old Christian Pastor, has just recently been released after spending nearly three years in prison facing execution on charges of apostasy and evangelising Muslims.

Now these type of cases are spreading to OSCE countries.

  • In Greece, a man was arrested last weekend for setting up a Facebook page mocking a Greek monk and prophet who died nearly twenty years ago.
  • In Russia, three members of the punk band Pussy Riot are in prison for ‘hooliganism motivated by religious hatred’ after they sang a protest song in a Cathedral.
  • In Turkey, Fazil Sey, an internationally acclaimed classical pianist, was charged in June with insulting Muslim religious values in comments posted on Twitter.
  • And Turkey is now leading the attempts at the UN by the Islamic States to have blasphemy criminalized internationally.

These developments are encouraged by political weakness on this issue in some Western States.

  • Ireland has recently passed a new blasphemy law, the only western State to do so in the 21st century, and the new Irish Government is delaying attempts to remove this law by pushing the issue into a year-long constitutional convention.
  • The USA’s initial response to the recent attacks on Embassies focused too much on criticizing the YouTube video and not enough on the violent reactions. President Obama said that the USA “rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others.”
  • Fortunately, President Obama had changed focus by last week’s UN meeting, stating unambiguously: “I know there are some who ask why we don’t just ban such a video. The answer is enshrined in our laws: our Constitution protects the right to practice free speech.”
  • The Holy See has been ambiguous on blasphemy. It has rightly supported Christians accused of blasphemy in Islamic States, such as Asia Bibi in Pakistan. But it has ignored the blasphemy case in India against Sanal Edamarauku, initiated by the Catholic Church in India, after Sanal had exposed a weeping statue as being caused by faulty plumbing.

Religious oaths and secular education

Atheist Ireland will also highlight two other issues at the OSCE human rights meeting this Monday: religious oaths and secular education.

Some OSCE States still have religious oaths for political office holders, and defendants and witnesses in court cases are placed in a position where they must swear a religious oath or else reveal private information about their lack of religious beliefs.

In Ireland, Eamon Gilmore, the current chairperson of the OSCE, is a member of the Irish Council of State by virtue of being deputy prime minister. To take up this office, he must swear a religious oath enshrined in the Irish Constitution. Yet he is on record as saying that he does not believe in god.

Protecting human rights requires that people understand what human rights are, and this is more likely to happen if new generations of young adults have been educated in a secular education system based on human rights law.

A secular human rights based education is inclusive of all religions and beliefs. It is a starting point for children to respect each other and learn about human rights and living in an ethical society. Secular schools can educate for democratic citizenship and human rights. Secular education based on human rights does not discriminate on any ground.

An example of how an education system discriminates in equality of access is the Irish education system. The majority of schools in Ireland are private religious schools and the Catholic Church controls over 92% of them at primary level. These schools are permitted by legislation to give preference to co-religionists. 98% of primary schools in Ireland are actually publicly funded private religious schools and are exempted from equality legislation.

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