So that's nice Patrick...is that what we should tell the victims of clerical rape...'it's ok ...'it wasn't a brother that abused you ...it was a priest'...
I wouldn't saying anything at all about religion. I would adopt the same approach of the Samaratins which is to listen (as opposed to giving advice, and, certainly, NOT bringing up religion at all) and try and offer moral support.
Just as I would try and listen (if asked) and offer the same kind of moral support to anyone who had been raped in any, general, situation (there are non-believing rapists as well).
What I wouldn't do, though, is to suggest that all priests are bad man (I wouldn't even bring up the subject in the first place).
"now go away and talk to the birds!"
- I don't know whether Francis of Assisi talked to birds or not. What I do know, though, is that he looked after lepers. He spent over 20 years, living in poverty, living with and helping, the poor. He, also, challenged the pomp and power of the Church, not by words, but by the type of life that he led.
As for Bishop Magee...sure he was a complete neophite...what would he have known about procedures and jurisprudence?...sure he only spent about twenty years in the Vatican Curia as secretary to three Popes...doing God's work.......
---> : gaol (like I said in my original post: and just like to add: anyone, whether priest, bishop, cardinal or Pope, who commits such as crime, goes (i.e moral necessity) to gaol (same as for anyone else) if they are found guilty in court.
Wake up Patrick... you are in total denial re the systematic protection and and support extended by the Roman Catholic Bishops in this country such as Cumisky, Connell and now Magee, to child rapists under their jurisdiction. Their actions amount to collusion Patrick...in the rape of our children...into whose trust we put them.
With respect, didn't you read what I said about being ashamed about what priests have done - not just priests but the way they have been protected by bishops. As I said before: prison to anyone who breaks the law. Doesn't matter who they are.
I think you are in denial of the fact that not all priests do such acts. And I challenge anyone who makes such generalizations.
Are you a parent Patrick?
No but that doesn't mean I should be gagged from defending innocent men (or women).
...somehow intuitively I feel you are not...but I am...and I now regard any priest/parson/vicar...anyone in a clerical garb/collar as an potential threat to my children...now you might think that's unjust, OTT, paranoid...but my attitude is that my children's safety is much more important than the feelings of any priest /parson vicar/bishop/archbishop or Pope.
I don't obejct to (I encourage) any parent taking whatever action they think necessary to protect their children. But there is a world of difference between that, and between making generalizations, publically, about certain people - generalizations that affect those who are entirely innocent. This country is now in the thrall of a witchhunt against priests, and witchhunts, whether they are puritans in Salem, Catholic inquisitors of 'heretics', McCarthy politicians, whatever, are unjust and unfair (and in the case of priests, damaging to the good work that many innocent priests do, in particular, those who help with the poor, the marginalized, and so on).