Atheists Gear Up For Bus Battle

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Re: Atheists Gear Up For Bus Battle

Post by adamd164 » Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:47 pm

Forty-eight complaints received so far:
Atheist bus adverts could lead to watchdog ruling on God's existence
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Officials at the Advertising Standards Authority are now considering whether to tackle the question that has taxed the minds of the world's greatest thinkers for centuries.

It has recorded 48 complaints since Tuesday when buses first hit the streets emblazoned with the message: "There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life." At least 40 more people were understood to have made objections by last night.

Most of those who have contacted the ASA consider the adverts offensive and say they break guidelines on taste and decency.

However Stephen Green, the Christian campaigner who led the protests against the BBC's broadcast of Jerry Springer – The Opera, is claiming they should be taken down because the statement in the adverts cannot be substantiated.

He said: "If you're going to put out what appears to be a factual statement then you have to be able to back it up. They've got to substantiate this proposition that in all probability, God doesn't exist."

The ASA is now considering whether to investigate his complaint, which could lead to it reaching a deep ontological conclusion about a supreme being.

If it ruled that the wording in the posters was unsubstantiated, it would be interpreted as effectively saying that in all probability God does exist.

Ruling that the words were justified could be taken as an agreement that God probably does not exist.

Members of the public donated £140,000 to the Atheist Bus Campaign after its founder, the writer Ariane Sherine, suggested there should be an antidote to religious posters on public transport that "threaten eternal damnation" to non-believers.

Some supporters of the movement, which has now paid for 800 bendy-buses across Britain to carry the posters for a month as well as placing 1,000 adverts on Tube trains, had wanted a stronger slogan that denied God's existence categorically. But the word "probably" was included in order to meet ASA rules.

The British Humanist Association, which is co-ordinating the campaign, said it was confident the chosen wording will not be banned by the watchdog.

Hanne Stinson, the group's chief executive, said: "I've sought advice from some of our key people here, but I'm afraid all I've got out of them so far is peals of laughter. I am sure that Stephen Green really does think there is a great deal of evidence for a God – though presumably only the one that he believes in – but I pity the ASA if they are going to be expected to rule on the probability of God's existence. However, if they do investigate we will be very happy to respond."

The ASA said: "We are assessing these complaints to see whether there are grounds for an investigation."
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Re: Atheists Gear Up For Bus Battle

Post by Ygern » Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:53 pm

Oh please, oh please... :)

I'm tempted to start a petition begging the ASA to make a ruling. Its a Heads Secularism wins, Tails Superstition loses situation.
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Re: Atheists Gear Up For Bus Battle

Post by nozzferrahhtoo » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:11 pm

I am in London at the moment (so sorry to all who I have not been getting back to).

Saw the new ads on the London buses here. They have the exact same color and layout as the Slogan we know but reads: "There definitely is a god. So join the Christian party and enjoy your life"
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Re: Atheists Gear Up For Bus Battle

Post by cosmosforest » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:52 pm

nozzferrahhtoo wrote:Saw the new ads on the London buses here. They have the exact same color and layout as the Slogan we know but reads: "There definitely is a god. So join the Christian party and enjoy your life"
Who set that one up? Cos I think we should fire off an email campaign asking them for proof of this god that "definitely" exists!
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Re: Atheists Gear Up For Bus Battle

Post by adamd164 » Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:29 pm

cosmosforest wrote:
nozzferrahhtoo wrote:Saw the new ads on the London buses here. They have the exact same color and layout as the Slogan we know but reads: "There definitely is a god. So join the Christian party and enjoy your life"
Who set that one up? Cos I think we should fire off an email campaign asking them for proof of this god that "definitely" exists!
Those privately-funded response ads have been going a while now.

Complaints were made and rejected on the grounds that it's political advertising for the Christian Party and so not subject to the code of practice of the ASA.
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Re: Atheists Gear Up For Bus Battle

Post by denice » Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:30 pm

lol we need this in ireland dublin bus just imagin it :lol:
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Re: Atheists Gear Up For Bus Battle

Post by Hemingway » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:06 am

cosmosforest wrote:
nozzferrahhtoo wrote:Saw the new ads on the London buses here. They have the exact same color and layout as the Slogan we know but reads: "There definitely is a god. So join the Christian party and enjoy your life"
Who set that one up? Cos I think we should fire off an email campaign asking them for proof of this god that "definitely" exists!
Absolutely! We should bombard the hoors with emails looking for proof!
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Re: Atheists Gear Up For Bus Battle

Post by Ygern » Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:25 pm

I dunno. I think that all you will discover is that a lot of people don't have much of an idea as to what constitutes proof.
Answers along the lines of "Well, thousands of people believe in God" will be proffered as the ultimate, knock-down rebuttal to your intolerant, ranting question.
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Re: Atheists Gear Up For Bus Battle

Post by Hemingway » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:12 pm

Ygern wrote:I dunno. I think that all you will discover is that a lot of people don't have much of an idea as to what constitutes proof.
Answers along the lines of "Well, thousands of people believe in God" will be proffered as the ultimate, knock-down rebuttal to your intolerant, ranting question.
You are probably correct. Its always good fun to tease them tho....LOL.... :wink:
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Re: Atheists Gear Up For Bus Battle

Post by nozzferrahhtoo » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:21 am

For those interested the BHA have made their advert into a car sticker:

http://www.blueapplemusic.co.uk/busdeta ... REF04.html
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