Ratzinger claims condoms would worsen African AIDS crisis

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Ratzinger claims condoms would worsen African AIDS crisis

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Post by DurErnil » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:51 pm

Do you ever kinda wish that its a bad dream that stupid old men like his "Holiness" have you so much power over peoples minds? I don't want to think how many people will take him seriously.
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Post by lawlorlicious » Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:18 pm

I'm not even seeing his argument on this: in what way do condoms worsen the spread of AIDS?
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Post by mkaobrih » Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:40 pm

He must be over 70 – I hope he dies soon.
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Post by Ygern » Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:42 pm

The article doesn't go into details like this, although it's entirely possible that His Holiness doesn't feel he is obliged to explain his rationale.

But I can tell you exactly what the "logic" is here:

Telling people that condoms will help prevent the spread of the disease will give them the false impression that they are safe to have sex as much as they like so long as they have a condom.
More people having more sex equals more AIDS cases.
And we can't be having that, now can we.

Considering that his archbishops have been preaching that condoms are so designed that the AIDS virus passes right through them; we shouldn't be too surprised at this little ill-informed bit of ignorant fear-mongering.

Strike 2 in less than a fortnight... Strike 1 being the Vatican's official ratification of the excommunication of the doctors who performed an abortion on a 9 year old rape and incest victim.

It should be clear to anyone by now; these are not moral decisions by moral people. It amounts to whip-cracking to try to get the faithful back in line with their outdated dogma.
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Post by ctr » Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:40 pm

His holiness is doing our job for us. More statements like that drive people into our ranks.

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Post by IrishKnight » Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:15 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk

Sorry, couldn't help meself

I really think that stuff like this hurts the church more than we can ever do. I'm not one who wants to see the church become stronger or whatever, but where is their PRO when they come out with stuff like this?!
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Post by FXR » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:48 am

Ze fires of zeh are real! Kristianity was not empozed an zee south american indians, zey ver zecretely vishing for it! Ze other churchs are not real churchs! Kondoms spear ze AIDS I tell yew dumpkopf!

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Post by Ygern » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:49 pm

Spain has announced it is sending a million condoms to Africa to help fight the spread of AIDS .

Next stop for the Pope: Angola.
Let's see is he manages to get the other foot into his mouth ... as Peter Popham writes in the Independent

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