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Large atheism article authored by Mariano

Post by horizon » Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:20 pm

Has anyone seen the large atheism article residing at the Creation Ministries Internationa website? The article is a large work and has quite a bit of information.

The article is located here: http://creation.com/atheism

I am particularly interested in any commentary on the Vox Day material he cited.
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Re: Large atheism article authored by Mariano

Post by Ygern » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:03 pm

It's a propaganda site, as well you know.
Moreover, Creation Ministries have had all their claims reduced to rubble based as they are on dogma and pseudoscience.
Try:
http://www.talkorigins.org/
http://pandasthumb.org/
http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/
http://richarddawkins.net/
http://www.expelledexposed.com/

It is the height of laziness and bad manners to link to a site and expect the members of this site to jump through hoops for you.
If are serious about engaging people on this site in a debate, post something of your own writing that you would like to discuss, and people will be happy to talk to you about it.
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Re: Large atheism article authored by Mariano

Post by eccles » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:26 am

WARNING. BEFORE CLICKING ON TO http://creation.com/atheism
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Re: Large atheism article authored by Mariano

Post by Rev j.jones » Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:46 am

Before I clicked on the link I decided I was going to spend 10 minutes reading it whatever it said, I managed 3 minutes then I had to begin skipping sections, I managed a further 2 minutes using this method of non reading.

I think the value of articles like these lies in showing reasonable people where the debate about god has resigned to. as far as I can workout the Neogoders reckon god exists in a place where the laws of physics, biology, chemistry, time and space do not exist a place where the holy books don't mean what they say, a place where earthquakes, hurricanes, disease, atomic bombs, terrorisim, genocide, rape, murder, starvation, and sexisim are all good things, then they insist it is not an illness that allows them to call this place "paradise" and that the best way to defend this state of wellness is to use complex sentences to hide Lies, emblishments and to disguise truth.

I don't think I have exagerated it wasn't my intention to, this is where we are now, its a long way from the religion of the past generations.

The neogodders position seems to be either to insist science is wrong while not producing any evidence or to attempt to reconcile their theisim with science with all the compromises required to facilitate this recociliation coming from the religion. both of these paths are finite infacf 99.9% of all religions are dead we're just left with these few relics of mass control.



because of articles like this, it is thankfully becoming more and more obvious to me that the position held by theists is not sustainable
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Re: Large atheism article authored by Mariano

Post by Rational_thinker » Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:25 pm

Well - I read it and posted them a long, polite response. Don't know why I bothered...they are unlikly to publish it!

Total load of bull of course. No attempt at intellectual rigour at all... Just a load of 'put em up and knock em down' theist wank. Really - why do they bother?

What I find amazing is that they can have read their own quotes and maintain their faith! Reading Dawkins caused me to abandon mine PDQ. I'm just embaressed that I held onto it for so long...

And for the record - profound thanks to Dawkins...
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Re: Large atheism article authored by Mariano

Post by Regens Küchl » Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:05 pm

Something to laugh from the parody site landover baptist :
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101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!!
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=14025

Reason No. 1 - The Holy Bible!

Atheists 'claim' that God doesn't exist, yet the Bible proves them WRONG! I can see the Bible, hold it in my hand, and know 1000% that it exists! As God wrote the Bible, this proves that he MUST EXIST too! How dumb these Atheists are!

Reason No. 2 - Evil-ution from Monkeys!

If we really evolved from monkeys, why do monkeys STILL exist? Surely they would've evolved too? And why don't we have tails or swing from trees or speak in monkey-talk? These atheists must be pretty deluded to believe such nonsense!

Reason No. 3 - The 'Big Bang'

Atheists believe there was a 'Big Bang' which created the Earth and the Universe and all things?? Well, what created the 'Big Bang'?? And what was there before it 'banged'??? Ask ANY atheist - they won't be able to answer you! Why? Because God created the 'Big Bang'! And then went on to create the Earth and everything in just 6 days! Praise Jesus!

Reason No. 4 - Dinosaurs

Most dumb atheists believe that man and dinosaurs didn't inhabit the Earth at the same time. However, we know this to be a LIE! Didn't Noah ride dinosaurs onto the Ark? Aren't Dinosaurs mentioned throughout the Bible?

5. They have to lie to make their point (in which case their point must be a lie). They try to "prove" their Darwinist monkey cult through such obviously forged evidence as the Piltdown man, while ignoring real evidence such as the Paluxy man tracks.
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Re: Large atheism article authored by Mariano

Post by inedifix » Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:05 pm

horizon wrote:Has anyone seen the large atheism article residing at the Creation Ministries Internationa website? The article is a large work and has quite a bit of information.

The article is located here: http://creation.com/atheism

I am particularly interested in any commentary on the Vox Day material he cited.
Wow! It's not so much full of holes, as a bible stuffed into one big hole. A kind of 2,000 word attempt at an "Argument from Anti-Atheism".

1. I don't like atheism
2. Here's an essay on what I believe is wrong with atheism
3. Therefore God exists

Laughable.

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