EireannachforGod wrote:If there is no God how does one determine what is good and what is evil?
I don't think I'm inferring too much if I say that your question suggests that if we remove the first five words the answer would be obvious, and moreover would be "God". Am I correct in this inference?
Assuming I am, how does that answer the question?
How do we determine which god exists and what He (or She/It/They etc.) wants?
How do we determine if He is good or evil?
Is something good because God commands it, or does God command it because it is good? If the former, then what is that other than "might makes right"? If the latter, then there is obviously an independent standard of good and evil, to which an atheist can adhere as easily as a theist.
I eagerly await your reply.
Thanks for your reply.
You are correct in your inference. May I answer your third question, "How do we determine which god exists and what He (or She/It/They etc.) wants?"
There is one primary way to determine if the god of the bible exists. My faith isn't intellectual; it is experiential. You can have a personal relationship with Him through Jesus Christ. Please let me tell a story to illustrate my point.
One day at the University of Chicago Divinity School, a Doctor Paul Tillich came in to speak for two-and-a-half hours trying to prove that the resurrection of Jesus was false. He quoted scholar after scholar, book after book, and concluded that there was no resurrection. He then asked if there were any questions.
After 30 seconds or so, an old preacher stood up at the back. "Docta Tilich, I got one question," he said as he pulled out an apple from his bag and started eating it. "Dochta Tillich, as he munched, my question is simple (munch, munch). Now I ain't never read them books you read (munch, munch). I don't know nothin' about Neibuhr and Heidegger (munch, munch), and I can't recite the Scriptures in the original Greek." He finished the apple. "All I wanna know is: This apple I just ate - was it bitter or sweet?"
Dr. Tillich paused for a moment and answered in exemplary scholarly fashion: "I cannot possibly answer that question, for I haven't tasted your apple." The old preacher dropped the apple core into his crumpled paper bag, looked up at Dr. Tillich and said calmly," Neither have you tasted my Jesus."
"Taste and see that the Lord is good: blessed is the man that trusts in Him" (Psalm 34:8).
"The more I study nature the more I stand amazed at the work of the Creator. " Louis Pasteur
“Contemptuous of the faith of others, its proponents never doubt their own belief. They are fundamentalists.” Gary Wolf on the new atheists