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DOLBAC · **Posted:** Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:49 am

We will be discussing tolerance, and rites.
Our politicians have been working for months on the "BURKA" problem.
Should we ban it with a law?
In public buildings, that is feasible.
But, how to apply the law in the street?
We have some texts which could be used, like some "dresses" can only be worn at carnival's time.
Have you got this problem, have you thought of it, what attitude would you recommand ?

Ygern · **Posted:** Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:59 pm

I dislike laws that try to dictate what can and can't be worn by women, - and its always about women, laws rarely seem to bother with what men wear one way or the other.
Instead of getting bogged down in the details of what some women wear, rather tackle the issue of why they are wearing them.

Prohibiting the burka is not going to improve the lot of women who are currently forced to wear them at all. If anything such is likely to cause reactionary behaviour as certain people feel that their culture is being unfairly targeted and will leave the very people you are purportedly helping even more vulnerable and marginalised.

Rather lobby for laws that prohibit abuse of women by their family members and deny the use of religion or culture as an excuse for such abuse.

Dev · **Posted:** Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:05 pm

I pretty much agree with what Yern said provided it included a stipulation for public decency. Women should wear at least a bikini in public and the equivalent for men. I think that is fair.

Ygern · **Posted:** Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:36 pm

Ok, Dev. You go first

Another quite interesting point, not about the burka but about the hijab is that it is a very recent invention and has nothing at all to do with traditional Islam.

http://www.michaeltotten.com/2010/01/qu ... -day-8.php

Quote:

Radical Islam's obsession with covering women's hair is a new phenomenon. In 1981, Abol-Hassan Banisadr, the first president of the Islamic Republic, announced that scientific research had shown that women's hair emits rays that drive men insane with lust. To protect the public, the new regime passed legislation in 1982 making the new form of hijab mandatory for all females above six years of age, regardless of religious faith. Violating the hijab code is punishable by one hundred lashes of the cane and six months imprisonment. By the mid-1980s, a form of hijab never seen in Islam before the 1970s had become standard headgear for millions of Muslim women all over the world, including Europe and North America. Many younger women, especially Western converts, were duped into believing that the neo-hijab is an essential part of the Islamic faith.

by Amir Taheri from The Persian Night: Iran under the Khomeinist Revolution

Dev · **Posted:** Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:15 pm

"womens hair emits rays that drive men insane with lust"
:roll:

I never knew that about the hijab I always assumed it was part of the religion too.

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