We do. But you seem to be missing the point. Or we're talking at cross purposes. You seem to be advocating that segregating gay boys at boarding school will reduce the likelihood of them having sex.Dev wrote:Sex in a boarding school environment is not fine - it is unlawful for such younger persons to have sex which I think we agree on?
I'm saying that because homosexuals have sex with other homosexuals, corralling them all together in a common dorm/showers, would increase the likelihood of sexual contact, not reduce it.
And giving them individual personal quarters would give them a greater opportunity plus increased privacy. You really haven't thought this through. A common side effect of thinking with your Patella Tendon instead of you Cerebral Cortex.
We use it to separate two distinctly visible genders. What on earth makes you draw a parallel with nascent, immature sexuality?Dev wrote:Having them shower and sleep beside them only creates exposure parallel to girls and guys showering and sleeping together. Currently the it's the method we use to prevent sex between kids. It seems to be working just fine.
Honestly, how do you think a child would be treated at school if he put his hand up and said, "I'm gay, please let me be in a dorm and showers with other gay boys and not straight ones."?Dev wrote:Honestly - I don't know how such a policy would be implemented. Maybe it would be voluntary. I'm only highlighting what I think should
Come on Dev. I expected more from you. You've always been a reasoned and intelligent poster. What on earth makes you think I'm saying that separation would be the cause of a child getting the shit kicked out of him. The cause would be the child standing up and saying, "I'm gay, please let me sleep in a gay dorm"!Dev wrote:If it had any truth guys would be kicking the shit out of girls currently as there is complete separation regarding sleeping and showering arrangements as is the status quo.inedifix wrote:Segregating people based on sexuality would be 100% guaranteed to promote hatred, prejudice and homophobia. The very minute a boy opts for the "Gay Dorm" he's going to get the shit kicked out of him.
We live in a world where children tease and bully other children they think are gay. We don't live in a world where children tease each other because they're heterosexual.
Please try to understand that separating children by gender is not the same as separating children based on their perceived (often confused and sometimes changing) sense of sexuality.
Okay, so now you do seem to be suggesting that each and every self-declared gay person in a boarding school should have their own private personal quarters. If so, then (as I mentioned above) you will not just be corralling all the (supposedly) gay children together in the same area, you'll also be giving them private rooms in which to experiment. I'd call that a big backfire.Dev wrote:Just because girls are separated from guys does not mean girls or guys have a problem. I just acknowledge that since girls and guys are separated on the basis that they are sexually compatible it follows that since gays are sexually compatible to each other separating them seems like a reasonable idea to me.
N.B. Just another quick reminder here, that we are talking about (potentially gay) children, most of whom, regardless of the "am I, aren't I" angst raging inside them probably have no experiential basis on which to declare themselves gay. It's a bit of a catch 22 for your theory. A child should not be having sex, but a child cannot declare him/herself gay, without experimenting. Perhaps (sarcasm alert) you could use this ploy to extract a confession, then expel them for breaking the law.
I haven't suggested for a moment that you have been prejudiced towards me. And I'm not in the least bit prejudiced against you for holding a different opinion to me. I'm just trying to point out to you why your opinion is wrong.Dev wrote:Ah here, please be a bit more courteous. I haven't been prejudiced against you at all just because you hold a different opinion to me - simple disagreement about showering policy for children.
My "Broadminded & Bigots" suggestion was a wholly sarcastic one, intended to match the lunacy of yours with lunacy of my own. Both are about as well thought through, as practical, as workable, and as desirable as each other. (Sorry, sarcasm is a bad habit of mine).
Yes, again, you're missing the whole point. Gay guys are guys. They are members of the same gender, and have an inalienable right to be treated as such. The suggestion that they should be segregated from straight people is preposterously discriminatory. And the suggestion that this separation should be inculcated from childhood, is verging on dangerous.Dev wrote:This to me is a privacy issue. Girls have the right to their own quarters as are guys and gays.
All in all, you seem to be confusing gender with sexuality, when they are not the same thing. Gay people are not a different gender.