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 Post subject: Arrests of Suspected Al Qaida cell in Ireland
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:48 pm 
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Seven Muslims have been arrested over an alleged plot to assassinate a Swedish cartoonist who depicted the Prophet Mohammed with the body of a dog.

Al Qaida put a $100,000 bounty on the head of cartoonist Lars Vilks after a newspaper published his cartoon.

The four men and three women were detained after an investigation involving European security agencies and the CIA and FBI.

It is understood that some of those arrested hold Irish citizenship and a number are originally from the Middle East.

They were detained by gardai in Waterford and Cork in the south of the country for conspiracy to murder Mr Vilks in another jurisdiction as part of an intelligence-led probe.

The men and women arrested range in age from mid-20s to late 40s and are detained under Section 50 of Criminal Justice Act 2007 at Waterford, Tramore, Dungarvan and Thomastown Garda Stations.
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/gardai-make-seven-arrests-in-cartoonist-plot-2093235.html

I hope this is a wake up call to the multiculturalists who espouse large scale immigration of muslims and tolerance of what is clearly a nasty and violent religion.


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 Post subject: Re: Arrests of Suspected Al Qaida cell in Ireland
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:04 pm 
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I saw that on BBC news and they stated that the perpetrators were “Irish”. Go figure.

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 Post subject: Re: Arrests of Suspected Al Qaida cell in Ireland
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I saw that on BBC news and they stated that the perpetrators were “Irish”.
The sad thing is that some of these violent religious muslims have already gained irish citizenship, as a result of our societys excessively naive and tolerant view of islam.

Under our constitution, they can never be stripped of their irish citizenship so that decision is ireversible and we're stuck with these assholes forever. Even after they finish their sentences.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:59 pm 
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First off these are allegations and nobody has been found guilty!!!

Be careful what you say.

But in Waterford...go figure :shock:

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But in Waterford...go figure :shock:


Was thinking that myself :lol:

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But in Waterford...go figure :shock:


Was thinking that myself :lol:
Again, another sign of the parochial naivete that helped cause this problem.

Why not Waterford? Islamists will establish themselves anywhere and everywhere. Their stated goal is to convert the entire world.

I was in an curry house, in Tramore county Waterford last year, and the proprietor was watching a DVD of a muslim preacher, in the restaurant.


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 Post subject: Re: Arrests of Suspected Al Qaida cell in Ireland
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Again, another sign of the parochial naivete that helped cause this problem.

Have you got aquainted with Rev.j.jones yet?? - you two would get on

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Why not Waterford? Islamists will establish themselves anywhere and everywhere. Their stated goal is to convert the entire world.

Don't worry it's an in-joke. ALL Religions want to convert the world. I know loads of people from Spain who are mostly Atheist - they are responsible for Catholicism in the Americas. What's the use of being in a religion, when the rest of the world doesn't have your divine knowledge that will save your soul?? You might enjoy reading The God Virus by Darrell Ray

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I was in an curry house, in Tramore county Waterford last year, and the proprietor was watching a DVD of a muslim preacher, in the restaurant.

Muslims watching DVD's - oh the travesty!!!! excuse me while I build my bunker
Was it the Jihad Boxset, with Exclusive Fatwa featurettes??

Did you know if you have Sky, you get the Al Jazeera kids channel??

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 Post subject: Re: Arrests of Suspected Al Qaida cell in Ireland
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I was in an curry house, in Tramore county Waterford last year, and the proprietor was watching a DVD of a muslim preacher, in the restaurant.

Muslims watching DVD's - oh the travesty!!!! excuse me while I build my bunker
Was it the Jihad Boxset, with Exclusive Fatwa featurettes??
It could have been. Why do you think thats funny? If it was you who's throat they were planning to slit you'd be terrified. But because its just some swedish guy, that makes it all a joke.

Why dont you stay over on Bebo. This forum is not for clowns.


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 Post subject: Re: Arrests of Suspected Al Qaida cell in Ireland
PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:42 pm 
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Rigsby wrote:
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I was in an curry house, in Tramore county Waterford last year, and the proprietor was watching a DVD of a muslim preacher, in the restaurant.

Muslims watching DVD's - oh the travesty!!!! excuse me while I build my bunker
Was it the Jihad Boxset, with Exclusive Fatwa featurettes??
It could have been. Why do you think thats funny? If it was you who's throat they were planning to slit you'd be terrified. But because its just some swedish guy, that makes it all a joke.

Why dont you stay over on Bebo. This forum is not for clowns.


What your point?? I'm taking the piss out of people who get upset over cartoons??? Why don't you go back to wikipedia and look up irony

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It could have been.

Argument from ignorance

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But because its just some swedish guy, that makes it all a joke.


Ummmmmm the news states a plot was foiled, by the Gardai - which I find to be most shocking; maybe there is hope for us

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If it was you who's throat they were planning to slit you'd be terrified


Look, if I get my head sawn off Live on Al Jazeera that's my problem


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 Post subject: Re: Arrests of Suspected Al Qaida cell in Ireland
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dugges wrote:
What your point??
My point was very clear. If you didnt understand it you must be stupid

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I'm taking the piss out of people who get upset over cartoons??? Why don't you go back to wikipedia and look up irony
No you werent, you were taking the piss out of me for mentioning the DVD of an islamic preacher in Tramore.

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Ummmmmm the news states a plot was foiled, by the Gardai - which I find to be most shocking; maybe there is hope for us
You lie. You were not expressing shock. You were cracking a bunch of jokes.

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What is this nonsense. Put it on your Bebo page, you clown.


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 Post subject: Re: Arrests of Suspected Al Qaida cell in Ireland
PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:14 am 
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Rigsby

If a Muslim wishes to watch a DVD that his/her right, however might not good for business.

I don't see what point you are saying other that to state he was watching a muslim preacher. If you equate watching a muslim preacher on DVD with "wanting to slit all our throats" I would suggest that view is erroneous.

Here in Waterford we have many religions that wish to convert the entire world. At least the Muslims don't call to my door.

And calling another poster on here "stupid" is trolling IMHO.

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Rigsby wrote:
I was in an curry house, in Tramore county Waterford last year, and the proprietor was watching a DVD of a Muslim preacher, in the restaurant.


Was the preacher speaking in English or Arabic/ Punjabi ? etc. Assuming you are not fluent in those Exotic languages the preacher could have been saying anything for all you knew .

If in English what was he saying ?

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 Post subject: Re: Arrests of Suspected Al Qaida cell in Ireland
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Rigsby wrote:
My point was very clear. If you didnt understand it you must be stupid
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What is this nonsense. Put it on your Bebo page, you clown.
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Why dont you stay over on Bebo. This forum is not for clowns.

Rigsby Please read the Terms of use for this forum, I find your comments to a valued Atheist Ireland member disturbing. The forum is for open free debate on topics, if someone just disagrees with your point in some way, they don’t disserve an aggressive verbal assault or belittlement, as this implies your argument is just weak without any merit.
The thing is Ireland is an ideal location for an AL-Qaida Cell, as easy access to England and Europe, and we mostly have a tolerant population. Something I read a long time ago about Jim Morrison, where he tested the idea that in the right crowd and circumstance just a few people could coerce the crowd into a riot, point is it only takes a few fundamentals (religious or racist) to distain the whole group. All Muslims are not part of some AL-Qaida Cell, the fear-play to such would cause diversion and then alienation into becoming prime pickings for grooming by cowardly indoctrinationist, that send the poor delusional sod off to die a pitiful death, while they claim glory points.


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I was in an curry house, in Tramore county Waterford last year, and the proprietor was watching a DVD of a muslim preacher, in the restaurant.

Two things I like to know considering your stance on (all) Muslims:
1. How can you support the “influx” of “those” people in Ireland by buying their curry?? -(These are not my words just what I believe I am reading from your words)-
2. Was the curry any good, would you recommend it? :)

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 Post subject: Re: Arrests of Suspected Al Qaida cell in Ireland
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ONE of the few women in US history to be charged with terrorism has been linked to an Irish plot to murder Swedish cartoonist Lars Vilks. Colleen R LaRose, or Jihad Jane as she calls herself, travelled to south of Ireland last autumn and is suspected of attempting to recruit people for the murder plot. The self-styled jihadist was arrested and charged in the US in October while authorities there raised the alarm with gardaí about an alleged al Qaida-linked plot here to kill the controversial Swedish artist.
An al Qaida group had offered $100,000 (€74,000) to kill Lars Vilks, 63, over a 2007 drawing depicting the Prophet Mohammed with the body of a dog. Islamic tradition prohibits depictions of Mohammed, the founder of Islam.

Five people held in connection with then alleged plot to kill the cartoonist have had their period of detention extended by 72 hours. The three Algerians, one Libyan and one Palestinian were brought before a special sitting of Waterford District Court last evening. Two other people are still being held for questioning and are due to be brought to court this morning when gardaí will also seek to extend their periods of detention. The four men and three women were arrested on Tuesday in Waterford and Cork in connection with a conspiracy to murder an individual in another jurisdiction.

A trawl through computers, phones and documents seized is being carried out. Garda sources believe Pennsylvania woman LaRose travelled here last year to recruit people to join the plot to kill Mr Vilks. LaRose was arrested in October, but her incarceration was kept secret until her indictment in the US was unsealed on Tuesday.

US authorities say LaRose called herself Jihad Jane in a YouTube video in June 2008, in which she said she was "desperate to do something somehow to help" ease the suffering of Muslims. LaRose is accused of travelling to Europe in August 2009, tracking online her intended murder target, of trying to raise money over the internet, of luring others to her cause and lying to FBI investigators. The garda operation here is part of an international investigation involving police and security services in the US, including the FBI, and other European countries.

Of those in custody, two males and a female are from Algeria, another male is from Croatia and another from Palestine, while the other two females are from Libya the US. All seven, aged in their 20s to 40s, are being held at Garda stations in counties Waterford and Kilkenny. One male from Algeria, who has been resident in Ireland for 10 years, is at the centre of garda investigations.

Muslim leaders in Ireland have reacted differently to the arrests. One Imam said the arrests were no surprise considering the type of ‘circles’ some Muslims were mixing in. Another Islamic theologian said proof was needed of the plot before conclusions could be drawn.

Gardaí say those in custody posed no threat to anyone on Irish soil and are not known terrorists. No weapons were found during the raids.

Mr Vilks has been quoted as saying he was unfazed by the arrests, which he said he thought could be linked to two death threats he received by telephone in January.

This story appeared in the printed version of the Irish Examiner Thursday, March 11, 2010
Read more: http://www.examiner.ie/ireland/jihad-ja ... z0htFanR0d


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 Post subject: Re: Arrests of Suspected Al Qaida cell in Ireland
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Rigsby Please read the Terms of use for this forum, I find your comments to a valued Atheist Ireland member disturbing.
My words were very mild. Im not sure how anyone could describe those put downs as "disturbing". But youre exemplifying again the confused morality of multiculturalism where mild insults are deemed "disturbing" and threatened with censorship, while the psychotic religious nuts plotting murder are laughed off as barely relevant.

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The forum is for open free debate on topics, if someone just disagrees with your point in some way, they don’t disserve an aggressive verbal assault or belittlement, as this implies your argument is just weak without any merit.
The poster did not "just disagree". He/she made a series of unprovoked sarcastic wisecracks. And I responded.

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The thing is Ireland is an ideal location for an AL-Qaida Cell, as easy access to England and Europe, and we mostly have a tolerant population.
Theres that naivete again. You seem to think theyre not in Ireland to stay but just stopping on their way somewhere else. How wrong you are. They are here to stay and to grow their community as large as possible.


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