Ostentatious religious dress

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Re: Ostentatious religious dress

Post by davef » Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:33 pm

ATTENTION: THERE IS NO NEED TO QUOTE A HUGE FREAKING POST IN ORDER TO REPLY TO IT.

Ok?

Ok.
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Re: Ostentatious religious dress

Post by saintsebastian » Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:03 am

davef wrote:ATTENTION: THERE IS NO NEED TO QUOTE A HUGE FREAKING POST IN ORDER TO REPLY TO IT.

Ok?

Ok.
For the sake of peace between you and I there is no disagreement from me. I rather enjoyed the magnitude of picturesque stature so I included it.

OK. Let it be your way.
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Re: Ostentatious religious dress

Post by saintsebastian » Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:11 am

mkaobrih wrote:saintsebastian - I feel like posting some pornography just to shock you. Sex is just sex nothing shameful. Bodies are just bodies - again nothing shameful - if you think that your body is shameful maybe you should look at your own upbringing and what influenced you to think such non naturalist things.
You could not shock me as I am over my initial shock many years ago. You are right, there is nothing shameful about sex when it is enjoyed in the privacy and the holiness of marriage to the gal you have chosen to be your very own. It is only when promiscuous sex with any lass willing to do so which degrades the act to shameful behavior.

The point I was making earlier referred to original sin of Adam and Eve when asked by God, "Who told you that you are naked" which indicates that shame in nudity was found by God as evidence that the first human beings were led astray by deceit of a demon. This is what produces the shameful effect on sex and nudity which is called 'lust". When you remove lust from the act there is no shame, rather pleasure in unity with the desire to create life in the form of a newborn.

I have no naturalist imagination. It is my belief that sex is most satisfying when it is faithful and monogamous coupled with a sincere desire to procreate humanity.

It is the thought of witnessing the birth of a wee Saint Sebastion child that arouses me to desire with a woman.

Pornography is a crude form of defilement and has been proven scientifically to lead to impotence and the heavy use of Viagra in men and in women leads to total lack of attractive beauty which I believe prompted you to choose the avatar of a dog's behinder.
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Re: Ostentatious religious dress

Post by davef » Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:15 am

Its not my way, smartarse, it's simply common courtesy and practice on a forum. Thanks for the sanctimony, though. "Turning the other cheek", I believe it's called?

WRT God asking Eve 'Who told you you were naked?', I'd LOVE to know who else was around to write that down.
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Re: Ostentatious religious dress

Post by saintsebastian » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:31 am

davef wrote:Its not my way, smartarse, it's simply common courtesy and practice on a forum. Thanks for the sanctimony, though. "Turning the other cheek", I believe it's called?

WRT God asking Eve 'Who told you you were naked?', I'd LOVE to know who else was around to write that down.
The original text of Genesis[where the encounter between God and Adam and Eve is translated] is recorded in many cultures and in current artistic recreations of that event. The author of the text is believed to be Moses, the child of Hebrew parents who protected him at birth by floating him in a basket to the Queen of the Egyptians. The Queen found the child floating on the river Nile and took him in as her own child. Moses grew in the Royal Egyptian family until full grown at which time the King of Egypt appointed Moses administrator of Royal Construction to build what are known today as the pyramids. Moses recalled his Hebrew heritage and left the Egyptian Palace to lead the Israelites[Hebrews] out of Egypt where they were forced into labor as slaves and into the promised land which is now the State of Israel. It is fascinating when you view the construction of the pyramids to see how they were built block by block and even more fascinating that the Egyptians did not build the pyramids, they were built by the children of Israel.

Previous experience has taught me that many forum participants prefer responses to the entire text of their posts. I am new on this forum so am learning the protocols of this particular forum. If you prefer responses to limited portions of your text, I am willing to comply. If you want me to respond to the entire text simply tell me so and I will also comply with your desire. Thanks for the correspondence, I appreciate the opportunity to be of service.
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Re: Ostentatious religious dress

Post by davef » Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:40 am

If you need to reply to something specific in a post, quote the relevant part and delete the rest.

Moses wasn't in the garden of Eden to draw a nice picture of man's fall from grace, was he? We had Adam, Eve and a talking snake, none of whom appear to have had pens, paper or easels. God was there too, but he never saw fit to write anything down himself, preferring to rely on bronze-age tribesmen to record and interpret his actions and motives.

The story of Moses' upbringing and the construction of the pyramids certainly is interesting but it has nothing to do with my question.
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Re: Ostentatious religious dress

Post by mkaobrih » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:51 am

saintsebastian wrote:Pornography is a crude form of defilement and has been proven scientifically to lead to impotence and the heavy use of Viagra in men and in women leads to total lack of attractive beauty which I believe prompted you to choose the avatar of a dog's behinder.
It’s a cow in the snow and I think it’s quite cute.
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Re: Ostentatious religious dress

Post by adamd164 » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:55 am

He's one of Nazinger's minions!

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Re: Ostentatious religious dress

Post by nozzferrahhtoo » Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:06 am

saintsebastian wrote:Pornography is a crude form of defilement and has been proven scientifically to lead to impotence and the heavy use of Viagra in men
This is the second "fact" that this user has whole sale just made up. I repeat my warning on the other thread here. Every time this user tells you something has been "proven" or is a "fact" scientifically it most likely is not and you should verify it independently. Where medical "facts" are involved discuss them also with your GP and relevant medical sites.

This user shares a user name with a user on the Irish Catholics Forum. It is likely to be the same user, but I have no evidence as yet to support this. However this other user also made the claim that the cervical cancer vaccines were not only damaging to the ovaries of young girls (false) but that this was in fact the express intention and goal of those who invented it (slander). At my request following this "claim" the user was banned from said forum.

Such lies about vaccines, and this users other lies about condoms, are in fact not just false but dangerous and everything this user submits as "fact" should come with, not a pinch of salt, but the contents of an entire salt mine where possible.
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Re: Ostentatious religious dress

Post by saintsebastian » Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:08 pm

davef wrote:If you need to reply to something specific in a post, quote the relevant part and delete the rest.

Moses wasn't in the garden of Eden to draw a nice picture of man's fall from grace, was he? We had Adam, Eve and a talking snake, none of whom appear to have had pens, paper or easels. God was there too, but he never saw fit to write anything down himself, preferring to rely on bronze-age tribesmen to record and interpret his actions and motives.

The story of Moses' upbringing and the construction of the pyramids certainly is interesting but it has nothing to do with my question.
Apparently you missed the portion of Genesis and Exodus which explains that Moses met with God face to face and it was at this time that the history of creation was given to Moses by God. Moses then set himself about the task of writing the beginning of what is currently named "The Bible". If you will take the time to study the entire text of Genesis and Exodus, you will be able to comprehend how the original fall of man through Adam and Eve was in fact explained to Moses who documented the history in writing.
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