Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:58 pm
Ygern wrote:Yes I would. What a strange thing to say.planewaves wrote:
Well, from your previous comment you said "I'm a 'foreign' atheist". I wonder if you were born in Ireland or the UK, would you say the same???
To reiterate, Henry VIII opposed the Catholic Church only when it was politically expedient for him to do so. He supported all the nonsense and rituals that went along with Catholicism, he never rejected any of that part. He also had a nasty habit of crying 'treason' whenever anyone opposed him. (PS being accused of treason by him meant your head was separated from your torso in a terminal sort of way).
Please see the third sentence in my previous post for a non-English and non-Irish example where I point out that The enemy of my enemy is my friend logic that you seem to be employing here is unsound.
(And before you go there, no, I'm not Saudi Arabian either )
I really don’t mind where are from. All people are the same to me as an Atheist.
My point was, given you were born and raised in a catholic house were your parents/relatives/teachers were Catholics, and you have converted from Catholicism. Would you say the same?
It does not matter what were Henry’s motives to kick the Catholic Church arse. What is important is that he did it. He had the balls to do it at the time when the Catholic Church controlled everything in Europe.
Atheism as we know it is a NEW IDEA. Surely you can not expect people at that time to become atheists !!!! It would have been a political suicide for Henry, and the UK.
Imagine if Henry would say there is no God. This would have given the Catholic Church and all the religious nuts in the UK the weapon to throw out the King under the penalty of Blasphemy.
And No, it is not like in Saudi Arabia; and this is because the Catholic Church is a minority in there. I would really celebrate the Saudi regime if they were to throw away Islam. That would be an equivalent, don’t you think so???