An Post: Anecdotal justification for religious displays.

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An Post: Anecdotal justification for religious displays.

Post by FXR » Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:20 pm

Dear Mr XXXXXXX

Your enquiry to Mr Eamon Ryan TD, Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources, has been forwarded to the Company Secretary in An Post for direct reply. I can confirm that our Christmas decorations will be installed again this year at the GPO, Dublin, comprising a Christmas Crib, Christmas Wonderland and Santa’s Post Office.

The Christmas display remains very popular with our customers and it regularly receives very favourable comment in the media as a “must see” on the list of Christmas attractions. While we are aware that not everyone agrees with this display, depicting as it does the origins of the Christmas festival, we are also extremely conscious of the very favourable views of the vast majority of our customers and their ongoing appreciation of our displays at Christmas time.

Yours sincerely Sinead Mxxxx

Company Secretary’s Office

Cc Department of Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
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Post by JH » Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:23 pm

Bah, humbug!

I do hope they keep the Santa's post office though. How else is he supposed to get the letters?
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Post by FXR » Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:30 pm

JH wrote:Bah, humbug!

I do hope they keep the Santa's post office though. How else is he supposed to get the letters?
If your'e in there and assuming it's the same display as last year, look at the window to the right of the crib. One of the elves lost his hammer about two years ago and he looks like he's pullin' his plum. They usually have his arm turned off but sometimes staff turn it back on.
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Re: An Post: Anecdotal justification for religious displays.

Post by Ygern » Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:53 pm

Sinead Mxxxx wrote:... depicting as it does the origins of the Christmas festival...
The crib has Isis, Saturn and Mithras in attendance? Wow!

/ End Sarcasm :roll:
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Post by lostexpectation » Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:55 pm

FXR wrote:
JH wrote:Bah, humbug!

I do hope they keep the Santa's post office though. How else is he supposed to get the letters?
If your'e in there and assuming it's the same display as last year, look at the window to the right of the crib. One of the elves lost his hammer about two years ago and he looks like he's pullin' his plum. They usually have his arm turned off but sometimes staff turn it back on.
you need to take a moblie phone video of that and then ring up joe duffy pretending your an horrified christian women named Betty.
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Post by CelticAtheist » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:34 pm

Just tell them to cop on and go with the commericial Santa Claus rather than the crib BS.....
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Re: An Post: Anecdotal justification for religious displays.

Post by lostexpectation » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:12 am

FXR wrote:Dear Mr XXXXXXX

Your enquiry to Mr Eamon Ryan TD, Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources, has been forwarded to the Company Secretary in An Post for direct reply. I can confirm that our Christmas decorations will be installed again this year at the GPO, Dublin, comprising a Christmas Crib, Christmas Wonderland and Santa’s Post Office.

The Christmas display remains very popular with our customers and it regularly receives very favourable comment in the media as a “must see” on the list of Christmas attractions. While we are aware that not everyone agrees with this display, depicting as it does the origins of the Christmas festival, we are also extremely conscious of the very favourable views of the vast majority of our customers and their ongoing appreciation of our displays at Christmas time.

Yours sincerely Sinead Mxxxx

Company Secretary’s Office

Cc Department of Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
does it depict as it does the origins of the Christmas festival?

i thought that was Saturnalia or yule or Sol, ask them what yom kippur decorations they will have up, remember there big thing these days is not to endow any particular religion but to endow them all, so do they do that?

send a letter asking when they are going to celebrate them winter solstice

ask when they are going to put up a big sun dial or say you'll bring in a big big yellow ball and they can worship that. cut out the middle man (ie baby jesus)
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Post by Jon » Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:24 am

Ah now lads,come on.

There's over 4,000 religions around the word which, if they all have a three month long commercial - er, sorry, religious - festival like Christmas it would mean it would take 1,000 years for de poor post office to get through them all, one at a time.

Mind you, I'd prefer that Christmas comes once a year than once every 1,000 years 'cos it's a great excuse to go out and get pissed for a week, after all, it is just for the kids, remember.

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Post by CelticAtheist » Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:28 pm

Jon wrote:Ah now lads,come on.

There's over 4,000 religions around the word which, if they all have a three month long commercial - er, sorry, religious - festival like Christmas it would mean it would take 1,000 years for de poor post office to get through them all, one at a time.

Mind you, I'd prefer that Christmas comes once a year than once every 1,000 years 'cos it's a great excuse to go out and get pissed for a week, after all, it is just for the kids, remember.

Jon
I like it.
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Post by Ygern » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:00 pm

Jon wrote: it would take 1,000 years for de poor post office to get through them all, one at a time.
What's wrong with that!?

We should at least insist on Isis, Saturn and Mithras; seeing as your uneducated one stated in an official letter that it depicted ''the origins of the Christmas festival''.

Then we can start to sneak in a few other representatives so as not to exclude other tax-payers in the Fair Republic:

Siddhartha Guatama (arrives Dec 8)
Someone to represent Samhain (little late but why not)
Modranicht (Mother's Night - how dare they not have this!)
Lord Rama to represent Diwali
Sada to defeat the winter
Yalda to defeat evil
Some starry-looking beings to represent Matariki
Imbolc. If we do not wish to offend our Christian friends, we should also make sure we don't demean our Wiccan brethren and sistren either.

Any artists or potters in the house? :D
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