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Greens call for blasphemy referendum

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 4:24 pm
by adamd164
e-mail Ciaran Cuffee and express your solidarity: Ciaran@CiaranCuffe.com
Greens in blasphemy challenge

Party set to call for referendum on amended Defamation Bill - which could see offenders face €100,000 fine

Sarah McInerney

A Green TD has said his party will request that a referendum on blasphemy be held before the justice minister pushes through new legislation to make it a crime.

Ciaran Cuffe said yesterday he believed many people would find the prospect of a law against blasphemy “old-fashioned”, and that the Greens would be asking Dermot Ahern to consider having a referendum on the issue.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 211741.ece

Re: Greens call for blasphemy referendum

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 4:45 pm
by ctr
Yes I just sent him my email... :D as requested by the facebook group opposed to this.

Re: Greens call for blasphemy referendum

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 4:52 pm
by lostexpectation
pttf let him say that to dermot aherns face.
ciaran cuffe says alot of things

Re: Greens call for blasphemy referendum

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 5:37 pm
by adamd164
lostexpectation wrote:pttf let him say that to dermot aherns face.
ciaran cuffe says alot of things
That's not the point, this isn't party political. I'm no hardline Greens supporter, I'm advocating that people email him as the only TD who's come out and called for a referendum, sure you were saying yourself that no one had done it; well, now someone has!

Re: Greens call for blasphemy referendum

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 5:38 pm
by Hobbesian World View
I knew the greens would come up with some good moves eventually. Well done Greens! Its been a great week for them. First they dumped the e-voting machines and now this blasphemy referendum.

I think they deserve a vote in the upcoming council elections. Definetly!

Re: Greens call for blasphemy referendum

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 5:58 pm
by lostexpectation
adamd164 wrote:
lostexpectation wrote:pttf let him say that to dermot aherns face.
ciaran cuffe says alot of things
That's not the point, this isn't party political. I'm no hardline Greens supporter, I'm advocating that people email him as the only TD who's come out and called for a referendum, sure you were saying yourself that no one had done it; well, now someone has!
i don't believe he really means it. if it came up for vote in the dail (eg will we have a referendum in 6 months) which way do you think he'd vote?

btw it took nearly two years for the greens to scrap the voting machines. inexplicable

Re: Greens call for blasphemy referendum

Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 1:07 pm
by aZerogodist
Hobbesian World View wrote:I knew the greens would come up with some good moves eventually. Well done Greens! Its been a great week for them. First they dumped the e-voting machines and now this blasphemy referendum.
I think they deserve a vote in the upcoming council elections. Definetly!
I have been thinking of voting for them as if they have more power in current gov, the better, but I think some of their views are wrong, as they do not support Nuc-power.

Also if a blasphemy referendum was held, groups like "youth-defense" which supported the no-to-Lisbon and anti-stem-cell camipaign, have a lot of mystery-money for a "Yes to blasphemy" posters etc. So the vote could actually be passed. In away the best method is to break the law and see what happens.

Re: Greens call for blasphemy referendum

Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 1:30 pm
by JH
lostexpectation wrote:pttf let him say that to dermot aherns face.
ciaran cuffe says alot of things
So have you emailed him?

Or is it your job to stand on the sidelines jeering?

:roll:

Re: Greens call for blasphemy referendum

Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:34 pm
by lostexpectation
if i thought emailing ciaran cuffe to tell him to stop bullshitting would be useful i would but i don't

Re: Greens call for blasphemy referendum

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:48 am
by UDS
I can’t avoid the impression, Lost, that, however much you’d like a referendum on this subject, you’d like even more the self-righteous gratification of being denied one.

Of all the Irish political parties, the Greens are the ones whose ideological stance makes them most likely to call for a referendum on this issue, or support a referendum campaign. If your first reaction to the thought that you might find your self aligned with them on this issue is to have a hissy-fit, best to be honest with yourself about what that says about your desire for a referendum.