nozzferrahhtoo wrote:
"Because I want them to follow the same rules that anyone else advertising has to". That alone is enough to make me vote no. Explanation:
We have a standards authority which looks at the claims being made in ALL advertisements and tests them for being wild and inaccurate. If said authority thinks the claims do not match the product then they cancel the ad. No matter how much money you offer, RTE would never be allowed run an add claiming that your new soft drink cures AIDS or something.
Similarly charlatans can not advertise. Pyramid schemes and “Earn money from home” adds never make it onto TV or Radio.
Clearly with religion none of their claims are in ANY way substantiated at all and they are charlatan practises designed to remove you of your money with no return.
So by the application of the standards that we judge ALL ads, religious adverts should be cancelled merely by default, without requiring any change in current procedures or laws.
I think we and the BCI are on the same page; are they banning religious adverts because they don't want to open that can of worms, therefore by saying religious adverts has no place in a secular state avoid it, yet allowing religious faith programming, without any rules governing the content. I don’t actually know the reason that it is banned, and clarity would be useful, Iona says something like due to PC-secular world, thereby blaming us.
The Sunday Times wrote:
It was due to be aired on RTÉ, the state broadcaster, which plays the Angelus at midday and 6pm every day as a reminder of the call to Catholic prayer Diarmuid Martin, the Archbishop of Dublin, called the ban bizarre. “Have we really forgotten what Christmas is all about?” he asked. “I sincerely hope there is room in legislation on broadcasting currently before the Oireachtas [parliament] that will see an end to bizarre interpretation of rules around religious advertising.”
Father Enda McDonagh, a theologian, said: “It sounds a bit crazy. There’s a little touch of anything to do with religion being no longer acceptable. This so-called pluralist Ireland might be pluralist for everybody except somebody who’s speaking reason about Christmas.”
timesonlinenozzferrahhtoo wrote:
By voting YES above, anyone who voted is essentially saying "Everyone has to follow the rules of the standards authority, except the religious cause they are special".
One rule for them, one rule for us? Is that what you want to vote for?
But at the moment there is one rule for them and another for anybody else: As above Sunday Times quote.
When the CEO of the CCL visits England, (don't want to mention his name or post an Image as copyright CCL Trademark) I assume there will be a huge amount of coverage here, on the News, radio talkshows, many presenters expressing their personal admiration etc, no need for adverts. Probably a full week of special programming, live speeches, O the horror, “but we can always change channel if we don’t like it” –standard response #3.
If Steeve Jobs came to Ireland for a state visit, would he receive as much free attention, there would be some paid for advertisement by Apple, and i-pad giveaways, it wouldn’t be of financial benefit to over cover the story apart from the News, as any normal commercial station would do. (There's probably more Apple followers than catholic followers in Ireland)
If religious advertisement with TOC where allowed, someone in advertisement would surly interrupt and say if they want everybody to know about it, let them pay, show us the money.
I do have one problem; some programmes do get pulled or toned-down if the advertiser doesn’t want their product associated with the programme content, therefore that could be used to put pressure onto some shows, not to offend religion.
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