Church control of Dept of Education

Feardorcha · **Joined:** Fri May 01, 2009 4:28 pm **Posts:** 1265

Quote:

New York Times: Last summer, there was talk of a plan to divest the church of its control of state-financed schools, but when I asked a Department of Education and Skills spokeswoman last month what the department was doing, she gave me only the Catholic Church’s current position — that there is need for “reflection” on the issue — and actually referred me to the church for further information.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/13/magaz ... 3&emc=eta1
Will our new Minister for Education be able or willing to remove the Church moles from the Department?
There's an interesting debate on the topic at politicalworld.org

lostexpectation · **Joined:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:28 pm **Posts:** 1993

can we get the fixed link for that.

Feardorcha · **Joined:** Fri May 01, 2009 4:28 pm **Posts:** 1265

This is it - I hope.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/13/magaz ... lobal-home

Mirthomaniac · **Posted:** Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:10 pm

Feardorcha wrote:

Quote:

Will our new Minister for Education be able or willing to remove the Church moles from the Department?

My Mother often tells me that I'm far too cynical for a youth, but alas, I think not. There is something awfully parasitic about how the Church props itself up, isn't there? Anything to keep power, of course. The article really has it right when it says that our economic issues have essentially diverted people away from the Church's monopoly on education. It doesn't seem likely that the new government will push to remove any Church influences, at least to me.

Feardorcha · **Joined:** Fri May 01, 2009 4:28 pm **Posts:** 1265

If the new government is FG/Labour and Labour gets the Dept of Ed, we might have a chance.

BishopLenBrennan · **Joined:** Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:19 pm **Posts:** 5

Feardorcha wrote:

If the new government is FG/Labour and Labour gets the Dept of Ed, we might have a chance.

"Fine Gael is likely to be allotted the environment and enterprise and employment ministries, with Labour filling education and social protection. ... Ruairí Quinn being mentioned as a possible minister for education."
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/bre ... ing20.html

Oh, please, please, please!

See
"Time To Transfer Control of Primary Education"
http://www.ruairiquinn.ie/?p=128

Beebub · **Joined:** Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:22 pm **Posts:** 1014

Sadly, i read today that Quinn might not get a cabinet post due to geographical concerns and that he might be up for the next EU commissioner. This would be a blow.

BishopLenBrennan · **Joined:** Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:19 pm **Posts:** 5

Enda is calling out the names now. The new minister for Education is... (drum roll)

Ruairi Quinn!

ctr · **Joined:** Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:23 am **Posts:** 929

Excellent

chemicals · **Posted:** Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:06 pm

excellent !!!

dugges · **Posted:** Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:42 am

Celebrate good times - come on!!

Mind your manners! There a Tea Shop my side of the Shannon now!! :twisted:

BishopLenBrennan · **Joined:** Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:19 pm **Posts:** 5

Ruairi was interviewed on Today with Pat Kenny this morning. There was some discussion of third-level fees, Irish language and other education issues, and general party & government issues, but no discussion of education & secularism.

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