Significant Irish atheists

Discuss church-state separation issues that are relevant in Ireland.
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CitizenPaine
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Significant Irish atheists

Post by CitizenPaine » Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:49 am

Back from the hols and coming to the conclusion that we have less to worry about than I before thought. After a little summer reading it has been borne in on me that some of the real intellects in this country are in favour of a separation of church and state. Many are openly atheist. To judge from the internal evidence of their writing the following (three of whom have recently passed away) would fit into one or both categories:

Maeve Binchy
John McGahern
Fintan O’Toole
Benedict Kiely
Garret FitzGerald
Emily O’Reilly
Vincent Browne
Noel Browne

They join others who are a little longer since shuffled off this mortal coil such as James Joyce, Brendan Behan, Samuel Beckett.

Not to mention broadcasters like Ray Darcy and Dave Fanning, who are very much alive.

There’s hope for us yet.

CitizenPaine
The moving finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.

From the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam (FitzGerald version)
IrishKnight
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Post by IrishKnight » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:19 am

Ideas are bulletproof!
lostexpectation
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Post by lostexpectation » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:46 am

intellectuals paa! what use are they? give me a do-ecltual

give me someone involve in todays zeitgeist someone vital and underground and outside the mainstream, someone doing something new and inventive and inspiring young people and living what they're preaching..


apart from that other you can mention
Graham Linehan of father ted fame is an honorary associate of the national secular society of the uk, you could probably search through their membership for many an irish name
pierce
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Post by pierce » Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:04 am

I too have just returned from a vacation and I've given some thought to the issues raised by CitizenPaine.

I don't believe that any of the establishment catholic hieracrhy really believe in the paulist doctrine that they espouse for the masses.It is simply too silly an idea (the omipotent/omniscient contradiction etc).

What it is about is money.

Yes MONEY (as in the stuff that makes the world go round). Thus our avenue of attack should be the 'charitable status' of the church. It is in effect a tax dodge. As taxpayers we should question and eliminate it.

Best Wishes

Pierce
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