Equality Authority says Catholic first policy illegal

Discuss church-state separation issues that are relevant in Ireland.
Post Reply
CitizenPaine
Atheist Ireland Member
Atheist Ireland Member
Posts: 462
Joined: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:49 pm

Equality Authority says Catholic first policy illegal

Post by CitizenPaine » Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:18 pm

I've just heard on RTE radio news that the Equality Authority has written to the Government, the Catholic hierarchy and certain schools to tell them that the policy of giving preference to Catholic children in primary schools may be in breach of Irish equal status legislation in spite of the clause allowing religious schools to "protect their ethos".

The Authority also points out that the policy is probably in breach of EU anti-discrimination laws, which in any event take precedence over all Irish legislation in this area (thank you, European Union, and not for the first time).

It will be interesting to see what happens next.

CitizenPaine
The moving finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.

From the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam (FitzGerald version)
artyfarty
Posts: 176
Joined: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:23 am

Post by artyfarty » Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:25 pm

Concern over primary school enrolment
listen Wednesday, 12 September 2007 15:36

The Equality Authority says it believes primary schools that apply a Catholics first enrolment policy could be in breach of both Irish and European anti-discrimination legislation. Full story here
A little boy prayed for a bike. Then he realised God doesn't work that way so he stole a bike and asked for forgiveness.

Carl Sagan - The Pale Blue Dot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p86BPM1GV8M
lostexpectation
Posts: 1993
Joined: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:28 pm

Post by lostexpectation » Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:55 pm

http://clericalwhispers.blogspot.com/20 ... ality.html

they say the religion has a built in get out clause, i dunno I think the problem is a bigger issue then their get out clause....


oh so you can make any post a front page new item...
lostexpectation
Posts: 1993
Joined: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:28 pm

Post by lostexpectation » Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:02 pm

similar situation in canada

The roots of discord over religious schools
http://www.thestar.com/News/Ideas/article/259225
Neesik
Posts: 284
Joined: Sun Feb 25, 2007 3:19 pm
Contact:

Post by Neesik » Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:31 pm

This story is in today's Guardian, Ireland forced to open immigrant school.
Abstinence makes the Church grow fondlers.
tony
Posts: 186
Joined: Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:58 pm

Post by tony » Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:30 pm

http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0927/education.html
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaki ... king65.htm
Catholic-first school policy defended

This really is unbelievable. Monsignour Dan O'Connor was on The Last Word with Matt Cooper and made a statement about this. He was completely unchallenged. No opposition and Matt didnt ask any questions. Matt really is a sympatiser i think. Quite disappointing really because he would be a good man to challenge these guys.
CitizenPaine
Atheist Ireland Member
Atheist Ireland Member
Posts: 462
Joined: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:49 pm

Post by CitizenPaine » Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:02 pm

I hope the The Catholic Primary School Managers Association didn't pay too much for that legal advice. As The Minister for [Catholic] Education, Mary Hanifin has said, the policy is within the legal framework of this country, which allows religious institutions to be exempt from equality legislation. The point is that the law is a bad law and, as stated by the Equality Authority, is likely to be in breach of EU anti-discrimination directives, which take precedence over Irish law.

Hello, Mary, that's what the Rome, Maastricht, Nice and other treaties were all about. You're a senior government minister, you should know that.

CitizenPaine
The moving finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.

From the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam (FitzGerald version)
Post Reply