Action station: Kill a crib this December, it's your GPO!

Discuss church-state separation issues that are relevant in Ireland.

Do you intend to email the GPO?

Poll ended at Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:46 pm

Yes right now
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Later
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No I love cribs
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Total votes: 2
bipedalhumanoid
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Post by bipedalhumanoid » Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:31 am

To whom it may concern,

Please note my advance protest of any potential use of public property (such as the GPO) as a site to display any form of religious imagery that favours any particular religion over others. Any such display would not only be a clear violation of the principals of state/church separation, but entirely innapropriate in a modern, multicultural Ireland.
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Post by FXR » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:09 pm

bipedalhumanoid wrote:To whom it may concern,

Please note my advance protest of any potential use of public property (such as the GPO) as a site to display any form of religious imagery that favours any particular religion over others. Any such display would not only be a clear violation of the principals of state/church separation, but entirely innapropriate in a modern, multicultural Ireland.
Nice one Bip.
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Post by CitizenPaine » Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:02 pm

Here's what the constitution (Bunreacht na hEireann) says about the state and religion:
44.1 The State acknowledges that the homage of public worship is due to Almighty God. It shall hold his name in reverence, and shall respect and honour religion.

44.2.1 Freedom of conscience and the free profession and practice of religion are, subject to public order and morality, guaranteed to every citizen.

44.2.2 The State guarantees not to endow any religion. (Emphasis added)

44.2.3 The State shall not impose any disabilities or make any discrimination on the ground of religious profession, belief or status.
There's more in this section about schooling but we've discussed that on another thread.

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lostexpectation
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Post by lostexpectation » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:03 pm

CitizenPaine wrote:Here's what the constitution (Bunreacht na hEireann) says about the state and religion:
44.1 The State acknowledges that the homage of public worship is due to Almighty God. It shall hold his name in reverence, and shall respect and honour religion.

44.2.1 Freedom of conscience and the free profession and practice of religion are, subject to public order and morality, guaranteed to every citizen.

44.2.2 The State guarantees not to endow any religion. (Emphasis added)

44.2.3 The State shall not impose any disabilities or make any discrimination on the ground of religious profession, belief or status.
There's more in this section about schooling but we've discussed that on another thread.

CitizenPaine
I noted that before but does that simply mean financial endowmeant, funding, rather then endorse.

doesn't really apply to cribs in the gpo...
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