ctr wrote:Option 1 for me.....(again)
FXR wrote:After I'd posted this in another section DickSpicer turned up with this article;
http://www.atheist.ie/cgi-bin/ia/cgi/pm ... &app_id=59
Humanist Association of Ireland wrote:Dick Spicer is vice-chairperson and ceremonial coordinator of the Humanist Association of Ireland
I'd join and pay a subscription to an official Irish Atheists Association.
CatHerder wrote:If a group here can organize themselves and elect a treasurer I can have the atheist.ie paypal account directed to the associations official bank account. Subscriptions could be gathered through the site, which may suit the majority of members seen as this is currently an internet community only. There is currently €354.46 in a personal bank account that I set up to maintain this site. This amount has been generated from sporadic donations and a few monthly subscriptions to the site. I've been paying the hosting costs from it on a monthly basis. The amount in that account has been stating to mount up so I was thinking of hiring the voice chat room for the site again.
CatHerder wrote:I may at some point even want to retire from what I am doing.
dickspicer wrote:I have been following the development of this site with some interest over the last while, it is a most welcome arrival. Generally the tone is more radical than that of the Humanist Association of Ireland and nothing wrong with that. In fact much to be desired I feel would be an organisation which functioned as a more radical voice of the non-religious community.
Just as there are religious groups which are radicallly hostile to non-believers and spend there time dissing the atheistic viewpoint it would equal things up if there was similar diversity on the non-religious side -would it not?
It is not I believe the role of a humanist association. A humanist association should seek to advance the rights and interests in society at large of the non-eligious comunity, and attacking religous beliefs in a direct fashion is not the way to garner support from society for equality and reform in its treatment of the non-religious community.
Humanists also cater for the ceremonial needs of the wider non-religious community and again the battling image of a militant atheist group would not sit well with such a role.
So...you radical atheists,...come out from behind your log in names...and the virtual world, put your real names and selves on the line, call a meeting and set up an atheist campaign group? As your first project pursue the atheist Bus Ad idea ? It will get you publicity and a public image (not one that would suit the Humanist image)....and there are numerous other ways and issues you can take on and be sure of publicity.... ?
Surely with close to 1,000 members there should be a dozen or so of you (thats how the Humanists started) willing to stand up and be counted. I for one wish you well if you do so....
I have to say though that I have my doubts that there is even that number amongst you who will do so. I suspect that the virtual world (virtual friends being an example) is a substitute for the real world. In the real world one has to put up (publicily) or shut up. In the virtual world one can wax on forever in anonymity promoting all sorts of radical causes without ever actually doing something.
Please prove me wrong, I have no doubt that there will be members of the HAI who will be drawn to such a development also, so some real people will come your way if a few of you can but gather the courage.
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