Ruairi Quinn plans forum on removing Catholic Patronage

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Re: Ruairi Quinn plans forum on removing Catholic Patronage

Post by Tulip1 » Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:44 pm

Feardorcha wrote:Educate Together has some helpful advice for those sending submissions to the patronage forum here: http://www.educatetogether.ie/press-rel ... heard-now/
thanks for that I going to write mine monday, so perfect timing
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Post by Marks » Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:21 pm

Concentrate on Opt outs. We have the Draft Submission together and I can give a copy to any member who is making a Submission. We will have it at the Policy Meeting on Friday.
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Post by mkaobrih » Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:28 pm

I want to make a submission but the questions are so very specific I’m not sure how to write it. I’d love a look at your one to get an idea of where and what to focus on.
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Post by Tulip1 » Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:28 pm

mkaobrih wrote:I want to make a submission but the questions are so very specific I’m not sure how to write it. I’d love a look at your one to get an idea of where and what to focus on.
+1

We can have a work shop submission writing!
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Post by Feardorcha » Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:11 pm

+2
I'm normally not at a loss for words but this has me stumped, for the moment.
I wonder should it be a personal-experience piece or a proposal, such as you might make for changing club rules.
Maybe it's just a case of getting anything down on paper so that the sum total of non-religious viewpoints will counterbalance the zealots.
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Re: Ruairi Quinn plans forum on removing Catholic Patronage

Post by Marks » Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:20 pm

Sometimes questions are used to confine your thoughts to a box.

If you are having trouble answering the questions then simply don't answer them.

Take the Recommendations of the Irish Human Rights Commission as a starting point and work from them. They did not confine themselves but looked at the bigger picture.
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Post by mkaobrih » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:32 pm

A reminder the deadline is tomorrow – just a couple of lines expressing that a catholic, lets everything remain as is, and sure we are all grand anyways, viewpoint is not the majority. Some of the submissions to the IHRC were only an email of a couple of lines. Lets make a change so our children don’t have to.
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Post by Tulip1 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:14 am

Mine is sent!
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Post by Feardorcha » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:31 am

Same here! It was just a personal experience piece and heavy on the compulsory prayers and indoctrination with a plea for taking religion out of school time.
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Re: Ruairi Quinn plans forum on removing Catholic Patronage

Post by Tulip1 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:45 am

Feardorcha wrote:Same here! It was just a personal experience piece and heavy on the compulsory prayers and indoctrination with a plea for taking religion out of school time.
I did the same, just our experience with the school principal and board of management. I did a bit on the patronage, opting out, and our story.

Put in a lot of references to the IHRC report. Copied and pasted from the AI submission aswell.
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