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bipedalhumanoid · **Joined:** Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:55 pm **Posts:** 2675

CitizenPaine wrote:

This letter appeared in the Irish Times today (Thursday Sept. 13th 2007), written by a GP in Diswellstown.

"Look to the children, Minister: They do not discriminate against each other and we should not teach them to do so"

CitizenPaine

The author of this letter was on questions and answers last night.

CitizenPaine · **Joined:** Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:49 pm **Posts:** 462

bipedalhumanoid wrote:

The author of this article was on questions and answers last night (unless it was another Dr who worked in Dwivelstown for 10 years with the same opinion on the topic).

I just got to see the tail end of that program. Did the GP give a good account of him/herself?

CitizenPaine

lostexpectation · **Joined:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:28 pm **Posts:** 1993

CitizenPaine wrote:

bipedalhumanoid wrote:

The author of this article was on questions and answers last night (unless it was another Dr who worked in Dwivelstown for 10 years with the same opinion on the topic).

I just got to see the tail end of that program. Did the GP give a good account of him/herself?

CitizenPaine

she basically said the exact same thing again? does anyone know the grey haired guy was in the audienced he spoke twice in detail about it.

FXR · **Posted:** Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:14 pm

lostexpectation wrote:

CitizenPaine wrote:

bipedalhumanoid wrote:

The author of this article was on questions and answers last night (unless it was another Dr who worked in Dwivelstown for 10 years with the same opinion on the topic).

I just got to see the tail end of that program. Did the GP give a good account of him/herself?

CitizenPaine

she basically said the exact same thing again? does anyone know the grey haired guy was in the audienced he spoke twice in detail about it.

I think that was Ger Roe from Educate Together. He's on the ball. He was on Prime Time tonight along with Gombeen TD Lenihan. He got in the point that the problem is we've inherited a faith based education system.

bipedalhumanoid · **Joined:** Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:55 pm **Posts:** 2675

CitizenPaine wrote:

bipedalhumanoid wrote:

The author of this article was on questions and answers last night (unless it was another Dr who worked in Dwivelstown for 10 years with the same opinion on the topic).

I just got to see the tail end of that program. Did the GP give a good account of him/herself?

CitizenPaine

Yes she did. And she countered much of the bullshit fed by the Monsenior representing the catholic church. Personally I have my finger firmly pointed at the government for allowing this to happen. But the church are definitely showing a look after your own mentality. I thought they were supposed to be above that kind of thing... they would be if they were ordaned by an all good omnipotent, omniscient being.

lostexpectation · **Joined:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:28 pm **Posts:** 1993

FXR wrote:

lostexpectation wrote:

CitizenPaine wrote:

she basically said the exact same thing again? does anyone know the grey haired guy was in the audienced he spoke twice in detail about it.

I think that was Ger Roe from Educate Together. He's on the ball. He was on Prime Time tonight along with Gombeen TD Lenihan. He got in the point that the problem is we've inherited a faith based education system.

was that not paul rowe, i think this guy was a local community activist or something

CitizenPaine · **Joined:** Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:49 pm **Posts:** 462

bipedalhumanoid wrote:

... the church are definitely showing a look after your own mentality. I thought they were supposed to be above that kind of thing... they would be if they were ordaned by an all good omnipotent, omniscient being.

Very true. The unedifying spectacle of the Catholic Church spreading the blame here and stating straight out that they're not in the business of educating all children should put the idea that they're due thanks for stepping in to education and health in the early days "when the government couldn't afford it" into its proper perspective.

CitizenPaine

lostexpectation · **Joined:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:28 pm **Posts:** 1993

More schools proposed for Fingal
http://www.dublinpeople.com/cms/index.p ... &Itemid=49
EDUCATE Together has announced its intention to open new schools in 20 areas in 2008, including two in north county Dublin.
Swords and Skerries were placed on the group’s list when it recently submitted formal notification of its intention to apply to open the schools next September.
A spokesman for Educate Together said the ‘intent to apply notification’ does not constitute any guarantee that Educate Together will either make a formal application to open a school or proceed to open a school in these areas in September 2008.
“These notifications are necessary as a patron can only make a formal application to open a school if notification forms have been submitted,” the spokesman stated.
The deadline for formal applications is January 31, 2008.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news ... 16707.html

Ireland bottom of education spending list
http://www.eveningecho.ie/news/bstory.a ... =283395472

again hanafin makes excuse about things being better now but these are the latest europe wide figures

couldn't find an article on the fast track school building programme with hanafin going around portraying this as some sort of success not a utter ff/fg failure

lostexpectation · **Joined:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:28 pm **Posts:** 1993

http://www.independent.ie/national-news ... 66254.html

ah a sign of good practice according to hanafin

lostexpectation · **Joined:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:28 pm **Posts:** 1993

http://www.westmeathexaminer.ie/story.asp?stID=470

5 new schools for mullingar FIVE holy god!

bipedalhumanoid · **Joined:** Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:55 pm **Posts:** 2675

lostexpectation wrote:

http://www.westmeathexaminer.ie/story.asp?stID=470

5 new schools for mullingar FIVE holy god!

They advised the Council that a four acre site is required for a new-look Curraghmore National School, a four acre site for a new Parish School (set to be located in the Lynn area as part of its Local Area Plan), a three acre site for a new Educate Together multi-demoninational school (to be located along the C-Link, near to Raithin), a three acre site for another Gaelscoil (at Robinstown) and a 12 acre site in Marlinstown for a new post Primary (Secondary) school.

CitizenPaine · **Joined:** Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:49 pm **Posts:** 462

Would Mary Hannafin carry out a similar attack on the principal of a school under Catholic patronage?

Celbridge school accuses Hanafin of defamation

CitizenPaine

lostexpectation · **Joined:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:28 pm **Posts:** 1993

shows what I've always though of hanafin, under that nice facade is a nasty woman,

would this water funding issue be different of the schools were state schools rather then private?

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mheykfauidey/
http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mheykfkfeygb/
http://www.independent.ie/national-news ... 48946.html

its very simple we supposed to have free education no eu directive can overturn that, I really don't care who signs the checks our taxes are collected for this reason.
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/colum ... 49532.html
http://www.independent.ie/education/lat ... 50120.html

lostexpectation · **Joined:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:28 pm **Posts:** 1993

http://dominichannigan.blogspot.com/200 ... ceile.html

watch to dominic hannagan describing the freezing prefabs of the ET school drogheda, and the deafening silence on the issue from the dept of Ed or waffle with no specifics

lostexpectation · **Joined:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:28 pm **Posts:** 1993

http://www.kilkennyadvertiser.ie/index.php?aid=9195

Quote:

CHILDREN in Bennekerry National School may have to squeeze a little tighter next year because the government has put a halt to plans to build a new school.

Despite the school’s board of management being asked to fundraise to buy a plot of land on which to build a new purpose-built school, the government has announced they don’t have the money to build it.

At a meeting last Thursday night in the school, parents of the 275 children were told they needed to get their pens out and launch a letter writing campaign directed towards Education Minister Mary Hanafin because the situation was so dire. In September the school is to grow to 300 pupils putting a strain on the electrical, plumbing, and maintenance supply.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0320/6news_ ... ,null,230'

more prefabs,stinking toilets secretaries in corridors, remedial class in cloakroom.

so it seems they've halted all the long awaited improvement on schools to concentrate on building new ones.

its still all going to plan isn't it hanafin

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