Phelim McAleer and Climate Change Denial

woodpigeon · **Posted:** Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:40 am

Did anyone see Phelim McAleer on Primetime last night? Arguing that climate change must be wrong because the scientists got it "so wrong" with DDT?

WTF?

He was debating with a UCG climate scientist but as is typical in a debate forum of this nature, the woo woos are given much more prominence than they deserve. With a bit of media training you can actually win a debate against an expert. On an entertainment medium it's often very difficult to get the truth across. I wonder if the scientific establishment (or skeptical groups such as ourselves) should be investing in media training in order to improve our abilities to counteract the BS produced by these people?

Colm

http://woodpigeon01.wordpress.com/2008/ ... cumentary/

adamd164 · **Posted:** Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:52 am

It's pretty easy to waffle on about nothing and appear to be talking sense (George Galloway has made a career of it in fact!)... I missed this last night, thanks for the info.

I'd like to think this is the type of thing that the AI will be able to issue official statements on or challenge.

bipedalhumanoid · **Joined:** Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:55 pm **Posts:** 2675

adamd164 wrote:

It's pretty easy to waffle on about nothing and appear to be talking sense (George Galloway has made a career of it in fact!)... I missed this last night, thanks for the info.

I'd like to think this is the type of thing that the AI will be able to issue official statements on or challenge.

I agree. This sort of thing isn't the sole domain of the NOMA-lovers association.

CelticAtheist · **Joined:** Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:55 pm **Posts:** 284

It doesn't matter if climate change is true or not, that's the thing.
The issue is irrelevent.

We still need to break our dependence on oil provided by a bunch of theocratic tyrants in the Middle East or by Americans robbing Africa.

lostexpectation · **Joined:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:28 pm **Posts:** 1993

it wasn' scientist that were wrong about ddt it was industrial scientist and they same industrialist are wrong about climate change (and gmo ) too.

wonder what phelim has to say about geologists?

bipedalhumanoid · **Joined:** Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:55 pm **Posts:** 2675

CelticAtheist wrote:

It doesn't matter if climate change is true or not, that's the thing.
The issue is irrelevent.

We still need to break our dependence on oil provided by a bunch of theocratic tyrants in the Middle East or by Americans robbing Africa.

KingGTR (a new member) is an environmental scientist. He pointed us to this link in a previous discussion on this topic...

http://depletedcranium.com/?p=368

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