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Re: I had an epiphany

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:35 pm
by DaithiDublin
I recently received a booklet entitled 'Creation or Evolution', published by the United Church of God (gotta love that!).

It was in one of those sidebar adverts that comes up on YouTube, so I submitted my details to their site and 4 weeks later the funniest thing in a long time dropped through my letterbox.

You can imagine what it contains, but I'll sum it up with one example that illustrates the disparity between what science does and what creationists believe passes for science.

It is a 71 page booklet. The first 69 pages are devoted to refuting the evidence for evolution. Page 70 carries the heading The Bible Explanation which contains 2 quotes from the bible and one quote from Readers Digest. And that's it!

I haven't read it all, the humour goes out of it very quickly. The point is that anyone quoting Readers Digest to counter a scientific principal is harder to debate than someone who has respect for the scientific method.

Re: I had an epiphany

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:44 pm
by Ygern
Page 70 carries the heading The Bible Explanation which contains 2 quotes from the bible and one quote from Readers Digest. And that's it!
It's one of the important things to remember about the opponents of evolution if you ever encounter someone arguing about it: they do not have a working theory, and those leading the movement know it. Not all their followers are aware of it though. "God did it" is of course a hypothesis not a theory, but I guess the distinction might be lost on fundamentalists who believe this.

I linked to this before elsewhere, Barbara Forrest has researched the Creationist lobby quite comprehensively. It is very worthwhile to watch as it explains a lot of what is going on and why. It can provide anyone wanting to debate on the subject with some excellent information.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4_x9KRVj8

Re: I had an epiphany

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:19 pm
by DaithiDublin
...if you ever encounter someone arguing about it: they do not have a working theory, and those leading the movement know it. Not all their followers are aware of it though.
And here's the scary truth that explains why. It's a short clip from a biology class in Dayton, Ohio. These poor kids never had a chance. Whatever about what they learned at home, faced with a creationist high school science teacher I can't see any of them ever even setting foot on 'Mount Improbable'.
If it wasn't so tragic, it would be funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNGGNomLx_c


Thanks for the Barbara Forrest link. I'll look forward to that later.