Ruairi Quinn plans forum on removing Catholic Patronage

Tulip1 · **Posted:** Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:44 pm

Feardorcha wrote:

Educate Together has some helpful advice for those sending submissions to the patronage forum here: http://www.educatetogether.ie/press-rel ... heard-now/

thanks for that I going to write mine monday, so perfect timing

Marks · **Joined:** Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:09 pm **Posts:** 362

Concentrate on Opt outs. We have the Draft Submission together and I can give a copy to any member who is making a Submission. We will have it at the Policy Meeting on Friday.

mkaobrih · **Joined:** Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:48 pm **Posts:** 1592

I want to make a submission but the questions are so very specific I’m not sure how to write it. I’d love a look at your one to get an idea of where and what to focus on.

Tulip1 · **Posted:** Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:28 pm

mkaobrih wrote:

I want to make a submission but the questions are so very specific I’m not sure how to write it. I’d love a look at your one to get an idea of where and what to focus on.

+1

We can have a work shop submission writing!

Feardorcha · **Joined:** Fri May 01, 2009 4:28 pm **Posts:** 1265

+2
I'm normally not at a loss for words but this has me stumped, for the moment.
I wonder should it be a personal-experience piece or a proposal, such as you might make for changing club rules.
Maybe it's just a case of getting anything down on paper so that the sum total of non-religious viewpoints will counterbalance the zealots.

Marks · **Joined:** Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:09 pm **Posts:** 362

Sometimes questions are used to confine your thoughts to a box.

If you are having trouble answering the questions then simply don't answer them.

Take the Recommendations of the Irish Human Rights Commission as a starting point and work from them. They did not confine themselves but looked at the bigger picture.

mkaobrih · **Joined:** Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:48 pm **Posts:** 1592

A reminder the deadline is tomorrow – just a couple of lines expressing that a catholic, lets everything remain as is, and sure we are all grand anyways, viewpoint is not the majority. Some of the submissions to the IHRC were only an email of a couple of lines. Lets make a change so our children don’t have to.

Tulip1 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:14 am

Mine is sent!

Feardorcha · **Joined:** Fri May 01, 2009 4:28 pm **Posts:** 1265

Same here! It was just a personal experience piece and heavy on the compulsory prayers and indoctrination with a plea for taking religion out of school time.

Tulip1 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:45 am

Feardorcha wrote:

Same here! It was just a personal experience piece and heavy on the compulsory prayers and indoctrination with a plea for taking religion out of school time.

I did the same, just our experience with the school principal and board of management. I did a bit on the patronage, opting out, and our story.

Put in a lot of references to the IHRC report. Copied and pasted from the AI submission aswell.

canasta42 · **Joined:** Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:43 pm **Posts:** 29

I'm very impressed by the contributions of Tulip1 and Marks, especially Marks' legal knowledge.

I just submitted a contribution the the Advisory Group (Prof. John Coolahan et al.) suggesting that all state schools be secular. Maybe in 40 or 50 years, I suspect they'll get round to it - but I do welcome Ruairi Quinn starting the ball rolling, however slowly.

Keep up the good work,
C.

Tulip1 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:39 pm

canasta42 wrote:

I'm very impressed by the contributions of Tulip1 and Marks, especially Marks' legal knowledge.

I just submitted a contribution the the Advisory Group (Prof. John Coolahan et al.) suggesting that all state schools be secular. Maybe in 40 or 50 years, I suspect they'll get round to it - but I do welcome Ruairi Quinn starting the ball rolling, however slowly.

Keep up the good work,
C.

Thank you, the folks in my village think different! LOL

I could not have done any of it without Marks!

I am so happy to see many people wanting secular education and contributing with submissions etc.

And welcome to the forum!

mkaobrih · **Joined:** Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:48 pm **Posts:** 1592

It's streaming live here
http://flashhost.heanet.ie/des/live_iframe.html
(us ie as firefox wont work)

mkaobrih · **Joined:** Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:48 pm **Posts:** 1592

Submissions found here
http://www.education.ie/servlet/blobser ... anguage=EN

ctr · **Joined:** Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:23 am **Posts:** 929

Watch it live here

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