2011 Presidential Election

Tulip1 · **Posted:** Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:42 pm

http://www.breakingnews.ie/archives/200 ... fqleysnoj/

aiseiri47 · **Joined:** Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:25 pm **Posts:** 177

Oh, FFS.

Anyway; I'm still not registered to vote, and I'm currently not very mobile. I can just about manage my weekly trip to the doctor's office with reasonable difficulty.This election may have to pass me by.

Tulip1 · **Posted:** Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:15 pm

I am to foreign to vote.

Dr Raskolnikov · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:30 pm

I see the OP has commented...

aZerogodist · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:46 pm

Tulip1 wrote:

http://www.breakingnews.ie/archives/2003/1015/ireland/kfkfqleysnoj/

O dear... don't forget about the FSM.

mkaobrih · **Joined:** Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:48 pm **Posts:** 1591

Article in the Sunday Business Post about how Michael D is going to have a Humanist reflection when he's inaugurated. He's invited Humanists to be there as well. I'll post a link when yesterdays post goes online (10ish). Drat I think is a payed service now.

Mike Galway · **Joined:** Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:37 am **Posts:** 1

Hi all, just joined today, First post
I am not very politically minded, but just wanted to add to this topic that im very happy to see that we have an atheist in the office
Not something that could have been imagined just a short few years ago
Maybe we really are growing up as a country

Tulip1 · **Posted:** Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:26 am

Welcome to the Forum!

chemicals · **Posted:** Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:03 pm

Mike Galway wrote:

very happy to see that we have an atheist in the office

do we

?

UDS · **Joined:** Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:23 am **Posts:** 120

chemicals wrote:

Mike Galway wrote:

very happy to see that we have an atheist in the office

do we

?

"We don't know" has to be the only honest answer we can give. Higgins has made very clear his aspiration that the Irish state and Irish society should be inclusive, and this certainly extends to atheism. A few people have tried to leverage this into a claim that Higgins himself is, or may be, atheist but to be honest I think there's more wishful thinking than strict logic or evidence-based reasoning going on there.

I've seen Higgins publicly identified as an atheist, and I've seen Higgins publicly identified as a Catholic, but neither identification came from him.

I've never seen a report of him identifying himself as Catholic or atheist or any other religions position, and so far as I know he has never been asked, at leasts publicly, on the record. And I think that's a good thing. I'd hate to live in a society in which a "must be a Catholic" religious test for electability was replaced either with a "must be an atheist" or "must not be a Catholic" test. I'm much happier with a society in which Higgins's self-identification in religious terms is so much not an issue for the electorate that it doesn't get discussed in the campaign.

Which, it seems, is where we are.

ctr · **Joined:** Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:23 am **Posts:** 929

UDS wrote:

chemicals wrote:

Mike Galway wrote:

very happy to see that we have an atheist in the office

do we

?

"We don't know" has to be the only honest answer we can give. Higgins has made very clear his aspiration that the Irish state and Irish society should be inclusive, and this certainly extends to atheism. A few people have tried to leverage this into a claim that Higgins himself is, or may be, atheist but to be honest I think there's more wishful thinking than strict logic or evidence-based reasoning going on there.

I've seen Higgins publicly identified as an atheist, and I've seen Higgins publicly identified as a Catholic, but neither identification came from him.

I've never seen a report of him identifying himself as Catholic or atheist or any other religions position, and so far as I know he has never been asked, at leasts publicly, on the record. And I think that's a good thing. I'd hate to live in a society in which a "must be a Catholic" religious test for electability was replaced either with a "must be an atheist" or "must not be a Catholic" test. I'm much happier with a society in which Higgins's self-identification in religious terms is so much not an issue for the electorate that it doesn't get discussed in the campaign.

Which, it seems, is where we are.

Great Post!

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