Queen to visit Ireland

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Re: Queen to visit Ireland

Post by bipedalhumanoid » Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:14 am

I don't have much of an opinion as to whether she comes here as long as they keep her nice and safe.

As one of her royal subjects, I've always been a staunch republican. However, I'd hate to see Prince Woo promoted to King Woo!

Think what you like about the political situation, but I'd imagine that King Woo would have considerably more resources at his disposal to promote his anti-science agenda than Prince Woo. :shock:
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Re: Queen to visit Ireland

Post by DaithiDublin » Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:14 pm

I'm glad I'm the type who thinks that it's high time we moved on from our bloody past. Figuratively and literally.

How many protested at the Norwegian Royal visit a few years back? How many republicans from the Viking city of Dublin bothered to boo King Harald V and his missus?

I don't see any problem with the Queen of England having a State visit. We need to stop behaving like a truculent teenager and start acting like a mature nation. It's high time we built this bridge and got ourselves over it.

And to head off criticism by the type that lostexpectations seems to represent, I'll have it known that I am more than familiar with the things that fire this republican indignation.
I have sat across from the military base in Crossmaglen and watched patrols come and go, helicopters land and take off.
I have been questioned by British paratroopers who appeared out of the dark as I camped in the woods of South Armagh.
I have lived in Belfast and tasted the enmity, and I have spoken with the relatives of those killed in Omagh.
My grandad fought in the war of independence and escaped from Mountjoy after brutal interrogation.

None of that should have any bearing on the situation today, where people have tired of being led by those who want to keep us embittered and antagonistic towards our neighbours.

I'm sick of Sun reading, Liverpool supporting, Eastenders watching Irish republicans telling me that I should be ashamed of myself for thinking that diplomacy is preferable to agitation.

The actual visit of the QoE will be a matter of supreme indifference to me, but it's diplomatic importance cannot be ignored.
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Re: Queen to visit Ireland

Post by Beebub » Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:25 pm

DaithiDublin wrote:I'm glad I'm the type who thinks that it's high time we moved on from our bloody past. Figuratively and literally.

How many protested at the Norwegian Royal visit a few years back? How many republicans from the Viking city of Dublin bothered to boo King Harald V and his missus?

I don't see any problem with the Queen of England having a State visit. We need to stop behaving like a truculent teenager and start acting like a mature nation. It's high time we built this bridge and got ourselves over it.

And to head off criticism by the type that lostexpectations seems to represent, I'll have it known that I am more than familiar with the things that fire this republican indignation.
I have sat across from the military base in Crossmaglen and watched patrols come and go, helicopters land and take off.
I have been questioned by British paratroopers who appeared out of the dark as I camped in the woods of South Armagh.
I have lived in Belfast and tasted the enmity, and I have spoken with the relatives of those killed in Omagh.
My grandad fought in the war of independence and escaped from Mountjoy after brutal interrogation.

None of that should have any bearing on the situation today, where people have tired of being led by those who want to keep us embittered and antagonistic towards our neighbours.

I'm sick of Sun reading, Liverpool supporting, Eastenders watching Irish republicans telling me that I should be ashamed of myself for thinking that diplomacy is preferable to agitation.

The actual visit of the QoE will be a matter of supreme indifference to me, but it's diplomatic importance cannot be ignored.
+1
Although after the car bomb the other day killing the young PSNI officer, I’m no longer indifferent. I welcome it. It’s high time we moved on and show these scum bags that they don’t represent the vast majority of the people either side of the border.
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Re: Queen to visit Ireland

Post by lostexpectation » Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:51 pm

your reactions are against the terrorists, can you not also have a mature and independent reaction to the queen and the many legitimate reasons to oppose her visit.

its seems not again you feign indifference, cos you not mature enough to consider a position on the monarchy.
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Re: Queen to visit Ireland

Post by chemicals » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:19 am

lostexpectation wrote: the Queen who's the illegitimate head of the country,
:shock:
eh?
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Re: Queen to visit Ireland

Post by Dr Raskolnikov » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:36 pm

lostexpectation wrote:your reactions are against the terrorists, can you not also have a mature and independent reaction to the queen and the many legitimate reasons to oppose her visit.

its seems not again you feign indifference, cos you not mature enough to consider a position on the monarchy.
I've lost any expectation that you won't resort to ad hominem attacks to support your untenable position.

See what I did there? :D
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Re: Queen to visit Ireland

Post by funkyderek » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:40 pm

Dr Raskolnikov:

lostexpectation is too busy to answer you right now, as he is currently protesting the visit to Ireland of Albert Grimaldi, the illegitimate ruler of Monaco.
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Re: Queen to visit Ireland

Post by Dr Raskolnikov » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:47 pm

funkyderek wrote:Dr Raskolnikov:

lostexpectation is too busy to answer you right now, as he is currently protesting the visit to Ireland of Albert Grimaldi, the illegitimate ruler of Monaco.
:lol:

You've said it all funkyderek!
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Re: Queen to visit Ireland

Post by mkaobrih » Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:39 pm

You are both in denial – you are feigning indifference. Lost has spoken, Lost knows.
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Re: Queen to visit Ireland

Post by funkyderek » Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:43 pm

mkaobrih wrote:You are both in denial – you are feigning indifference. Lost has spoken, Lost knows.
Yes, you're right. I'm pretending to be indifferent.

But only because I don't care.
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